Would someone translate most of it? Are there any changes besides the Final Label tagging?

This will make the CRZ even more rare.

Maybe they'll do it like the Honda Ridgeline where they have model year 2006-2014 and again from 2017.

 

That's unfortunate. It really fits with the rumors about them stopping development on the next-gen CR-Z too. Sounds like we're close to the end of the road.

 

Saw this on FB as well. From the sound of it, this is the last year of production. Very sad...

Did a Google Translate of the page..
Honda | ?CR-Z? ?????????Final label????

And it says "Since its launch, it has sold about 4 million units total, but it was decided to end the production with the end of the year."

Still hoping this means that a newer CR-Z type of car will be in the works, but who knows... and I still haven't gotten my airbag replaced yet!!

 

4mil? Seems a tad high... My darling miata has only sold 1m.. since the year I was born....

 

Come to think of it, why do a model update in 2016 if they are just going to nix any future CR-Z's?

 

I assume it's a very recent decision. According to some rumours, the all new CR-Z was supposed to be like a small 3-door Civic with actual usable rear seats. Some say the development has stopped because of money. The Takata issue has cost Honda a lot of money.

 

I would have never guessed that 4 million CRZ's were sold around the world, specially after considering that the Miata just reached the 1 million milestone recently.

I like the Final Label badge on the center console. It looks ace.

 

4mil? Seems a tad high... My darling miata has only sold 1m.. since the year I was born....

I would have never guessed that 4 million CRZ's were sold around the world, specially after considering that the Miata just reached the 1 million milestone recently.

I like the Final Label badge on the center console. It looks ace.

I see that SPICCIANI brought up the same point.

 

Honda CR-Z Alpha Final Label - sport hybrid bows out

 

I've been seeing his pop up as well I get asked about mine all the time, and there seems to be genuine interest, but I seriously doubt 4 million of them were sold since production... If nothing else, our cars will be even more rare with them discontinuing it

 

Autoblog got your back

?The Honda CR-Z is on the way out, at least in Japan - Autoblog

 

Hopefully what this DOESN'T mean though is that parts will become hard to find! Not cool...

 

Auto manufacturers are required to manufacture and stock parts for ten years after the last vehicle rolls off the assembly line.

 

The stockpiling concerns aren't in the "wear" parts- it's the other pieces that no other manufacturer would step-up to build. Trim, seals, knobs, handles and the like. Look at what NPW sell for Camaros and other rolling pieces of crap from Chevy- weatherstripping, chrome trim and the like. The Z doesn't have nearly the customer base that American cars do, nor the kind of aftermarket manufacturers who contribute to what used to go into a car.

Here's an Old Man Anecdote that might explain some of it for you- I was a theater projectionist for half a decade, long before digital was anything more than a future wish. I drove the film prints from San Francisco to St. Helena, CA, spliced the shipping reels on to a big reel and showed movies. Not even a platter system, although even doing "make-ups" by splicing the shipping reels into longer runs was rare enough at the time. I ran a carbon-arc lamp behind projectors that were made in the thirties, a Peerless Mag-na-Arc and Simplex E-10 projectors.
The projector drove things with a vertical gear shaft, metal pinions running in fiber gears, which wore out about every ten years or so. We dealt with Western Theatrical in SF for parts, and when we stripped a driven gear on one of the projectors, I had to go to them to get replacements. "You're lucky you're running the E-10 with that vertical drive," the parts man told me. "The E-12 went to a slanted main drive shaft, a lot quieter and easier on the parts. They never wear out. So no one's ever made parts for them. When one of those wears out, you throw it away. An E-10 you can almost build a new one out of the available replacement parts."

Don't panic. The stuff coming on to the market will make the lovely CR-Z look as hoary as the Z makes an MG Midget look. Oh, and it'll be electric and three times faster, for less money.

 

Thats the thing though. I don't BUY new cars, or want to buy one. Dont need the debt! So..I want to keep mine going.

Hopefully the aftermarket companies will keep things going. I really love this car so far! With over 170k on mine, its been great!!

Maybe I should buy my quarter panels now though, since I live in salt-land. Hahaha. :grin2:

 

After seeing this I have now made the decision to keep my CRZ forever!!! Even between the 3 generations of face lifts each brought their own to the table. It is very sad to see this but it makes me happy inside knowing that I own a future rare car! Don't forget about all the crz's out there that are going to be in accidents or scrapped, numbers in 20 years from now will be lowww.

 

I wouldnt be worried about parts availability. Not for some time. First, the CR-Z is still in production, its only just been announced that its coming to an end. There will be a massive pile of parts for a while. Second, the CR-Z requires very little maintenance and many of the parts are higher in quality than all the cars we've all owned previous to this one. Third, the CR-Z enthusiast/modding base is quite small compared to other vehicles (Civic, BFRSZ, Camero, Mustang and so on). The CR-Z requires almost nothing aside from basic fluids for 100,000 miles. The majority of CR-Z owners aren't replacing things on a regular basis. Even then at 100K all thats needed is a belt and some spark plugs.

As a comparison for discontinued parts availability take the 1989-2001ish CRX/Civic/Integras for example. Millions more of those around than the CR-Z and thousands of enthusiast owners bought up tens of thousands of Integra and B-series parts for more than a decades worth of their various Civic models (more buyers for parts than actual vehicle owners and vehicles sold). It got so serious that Honda had to put VIN restrictions on specific parts. You could order a Type R transmission, cylinder head, seats, 5-lug suspension, long block etc for whatever piece of crap car you wanted as they were still cranking them out, but you had to wait. Only actual owners of ITRs who provided the VIN to their real Type R would get one (next day air) from a 'secret' stock that they kept on hand for actual owners of the vehicle should they require one. Those models have all been discontinued for almost 16 years now, yet you can still get parts. Some are in short supply and some are now on the little known 'vintage parts' list, but they're still there 16 years after discontinuation with a much larger crowd consuming much more.

 

I saw this article today, seems to be along the same lines.

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2016/06/going-take-forever-dealers-sell-remaining-honda-cr-zs/

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Oh, Honda didn't sell many Zs.

Perhaps they should have tried advertising it.

I've never seen it mentioned on television.

 

Agreed, and Honda did a terrible job highlighting the benefits of the 'mild' hybrid IMA system over its competitors. Namely the ability to drive should the high voltage system become inoperable. The biggest concern among first-time prospective hybrid owners was the large battery packs and reliability, and the majority of hybrids cannot operate without them. The Honda IMA system can. However because they didn't advertise the benefits it didn't sell as well and is now being phased out.

 

The END of the CRZ

Looks like they are pulling the plug on the crz


End of the Line: 2016 Honda CR-Z Alpha Final Label


16 is the last year with a final edition.

so long crz

 

There is another detailed thread on this ( two actually)

 

It looks official now, not just speculation.
http://blog.caranddriver.com/rip-cr-z-honda-kills-its-hybrid-sports-coupe-to-make-way-for-clarity/:crying::crying:

 

I never saw ANY advertising for the CRZ anywhere.

 

It's dead, Jim. CR-Z is officially discontinued in the US for 2017

?Honda has finally killed the unloved CR-Z hybrid hatch - Autoblog

I guess it should come as no surprise after the Final Label announcement in Japan.

 

"While Honda made updates to the car throughout its life, the brand never twisted the dial to “11” to really turn the CR-Z into an appealing sports coupe..."

I don't think the knobs at Honda ever realized there could be a knob to turn. I truly believe the Z was an experiment and a test-bed, for both the battery system and the CVT. And I hope they've found they're both viable. There are characteristics about the IMA that I find very pleasing, and I'm still fascinated with the transmission. The CVT in the Civic never lets you know what it is- it kicks down with the snap that a normal automatic gives you, while the Z just feels like a yacht having its throttles firewalled. Pity they didn't give the Civic paddles.

 

Yeap. Our beloved car has sadly been declared dead by Honda. This is the 2nd time this has happened. They killed the CRX the same way. Guess I'll be keeping mine until the batts play out.

Honda CR-Z Dead for 2017 so Honda Can Focus on Accord Hybrid ? News ? Car and Driver | Car and Driver Blog

 

Yeap. Our beloved car has sadly been declared dead by Honda. This is the 2nd time this has happened. They killed the CRX the same way. Guess I'll be keeping mine until the batts play out.

Honda CR-Z Dead for 2017 so Honda Can Focus on Accord Hybrid ? News ? Car and Driver | Car and Driver Blog

From what I have read in this forum that will be a long time and there are third party companies that can replace the batteries.

 

The CRZ was my only choice if I were going to go hybrid and that's what I did. I like my cars to have real gears so I went with the 6MT. For a relatively low hp car, I want to take advantage of the powerband.

I thought of the CR-Z as Honda's failed Prius killer. It has the platform for a good hybrid, but Honda kept it from evolving like the Prius. Honda had the Insight and Civic Hybrid too at the same time with the IMA system which essentially competed with each other. Aside from the lithium battery, fascia update and additional 8 hp on it's 2013 MY, the CRZ stayed the same.

The hybrid market in the US is seasonal by definition and it is understandable why Honda did not want to get serious like Toyota which had cornered the market with its toaster, the Prius. The IMA system is inferior to the Prius with its full EV mode and 3 electric motors.

The IMA's logic is to use a small engine and supplement it with an electric motor to help with acceleration which made the CRZ a lukewarm hybrid, the gas engine was always on except at red lights which isn't a new technology. The offered 6-speed was one of the selling points of the car, but at the time where manuals are dying (thanks Audi, Porsche and Other performance car companies), nobody really paid attention. Speaking of attention, Honda never gained the consumer because they hid the car in its lineup. No ads, tv spots or even buy/lease specials. It's there but it was lost.

Honda wasn't entirely to blame. The media hated the CRZ. It was rarely reviewed in magazines, not invited on hybrid/economy car shootouts and none of the long term fleet tests. It was compared to the CRX, who at its time too, was labeled as a niche car. Now it's an icon for the 80s cars.

Do I care if my car is discontinued? No, I just know that my 2016 will not get old because there are no longer any updates lol.





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The CRZ was my only choice if I were going to go hybrid and that's what I did.

I've never really thought of the Z as a "hybrid". Sadly, neither has the State of Caliscrewyou, not giving us HOV lane privileges nor other perks, the bastards.

I was interested in the Z because of its looks (yeah, I'm that stupid about women, too), and I have an odd fascination with cars that have a trunk window (I used to have the little Mercedes hatchback with one) since Lamborghini brought out Pinin Farina's Espada.

Seeing the dash and driving the Z is what hooked me. However, it has also increased my interest in a hybrid car, as well. I may look at the Civic.

Note I said, "car". The Priu**** is about as much "car" as a dirt clod is. I'm still suspicious the only reason they let them sell them is so the damned doorstops can get over into the fast lane and slow down traffic for two miles back.

I have no plans to let the CR-Z go.

Oh, and can someone clarify for me, where do we get the hydrogen for the Clarity?

 

The IMA system is beautiful in its simplicity and reliability. The prius is not a fun car to drive, the CR-Z is and thats the current difference between the so called heavy and mild implementations of hybrid systems. The main focuses of the IMA system are cutting out wasteful idling fuel consumption and emissions (PZEV) and eliminating the strain and wear that accompanies idling while utilizing regenerative braking and giving a decent torque boost for acceleration. The fact that the prius can drive all electric is also the fact that it and all the heavy hybrids are completely dependent on the high voltage system, if it is inoperable you can't drive while the CR-Z can. Its more complicated and integrated which means problems end up costing a lot more.

Its pretty much preaching to the choir here but to compare the CR-Z to a prius is like comparing a CR-Z to a minivan. Nearly all unique and special vehicles go out of production, including legendary highly acclaimed vehicles that have yet to be surpassed decades later.

It's being discontinued. So what. Everyone still has theirs, its still a great car. Just because its discontinued doesn't mean it wasn't or isn't great, it is a corporate level decision. It doesn't mean you made a bad choice. It doesn't mean you won't be able to keep and maintain it for the next 15 years. The only thing it means at this moment is that once the new ones are all gone the depreciation will slow a bit (and even stop and reverse when gas prices rise) and if you total yours out and want another you'll have to get a used one.

 

Not only was my previous car discontinued the whole division was. Car models come and go, model names change. Who cares if others can buy what you already have. Now get off this forum and go out and drive!

 

All threads relating to the end of the CR-Z's production have been merged here. I didn't see a need to have three separate discussions on the same topic. Happy Saturday!

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