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Steering the CRZ

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I have had my 2015 CRZ for 6 months. It has 32,000 miles and I love everything about the car. I have a question about the steering. Its very touchy when I move the wheel at all and at freeway speeds I find myself having to concentrate on keeping it in the center of the lane. Not that its going to jump out but it tends to drift a bit. I feel like I am herding it down the road a bit like there is no toe in at all in the front. I have brand new tires and just had it alligned however it did this before the new tires and alignment. It doesn’t pull either way, right or left and actually steers excellent in town or at 40-60 mph. It tends to drift in the lane and, as I said, I have to concentrate on running a consistent line on the freeway. Never had that with any other car and if it is just like that I can definitely live with it. Any thoughts or any one experience the same thing?
 
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I think that it's just how the car's built.
I haven't confirmed this, but what I've noticed is that most "normal" cars (at least the one's I've driven) have progressive steering. So for the first 1/4 turn of the wheel, the car doesn't turn much, but when you turn the wheel more, the car steers faster. Essentially, the steering "sensitivity" is low when the wheels are only turned a little bit, but is higher the more you turn them. This is done to make it easier to track (keep the vehicle centered) within your lane . The CR-Z doesn't seem to have this, and instead just has the steering in "high sensitivity" all the time. I think that this is done to give the car a more agile and maneuverable feel, which I think it does have. When I go from the 'Z to another car, I feel like I'm driving a huge truck because I have to turn the wheel so much to get the car to steer the same amount. It does make it trickier to track in the lane, but I have gotten used to it.

Try driving in sport mode. When in Sport mode, the steering becomes a bit heavier. It might help you out.
 
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Thanks 666 There is a difference is the high speed steering, actually in all the steering at any speed just slowed it’s not as pronounced. Nothing I can’t adjust to or already have. Thanks bro.
 
#3 ·
I have the same feeling on my CR-Z as well. I have 17' rims on it and i think that is the cause, because the steering electrical motor doesn't have enough power to stay straight with heavy rims. When i turn the steering wheel a bit, it stays there, is not coming back to straight... I'm not sure, is just my thought
 
#6 · (Edited)
What is the advantage to 17 in rims, besides looks? Have you opted for wider tires as well? I have been told, significantly wider tires, as in an inch wider, make the car look aggressive but they cut down on the gas mileage. Your thoughts?
 
#14 ·
Please update us with your current rims / tyres size.

Your issue is not normal at all. Actually it is also not safe at all.

It can be due to several reasons.

Please revert with requested info when convenient.

Thanks
 
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I have the factory 16” rims that came on the 2015. I am running 205/55/16 tires but I was experiencing this with the factory 195s to. I have heard from several folks that they have experienced the same thing at freeway speeds and had to do with steering sensitivity. I have had it to Honda for inspection when I first got it and there were no issues. The car preforms excellent but for this small issue. What problems or dangers are you talking about?
 
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I have the standard 16's on stock suspension. The steering is slightly sensitive and needs the odd tiny adjustment but the car generally tracks straight and doesn't drift.
Have you checked the tyre pressures? I remember when I got my other car the steering felt very sensitive and I had to make slight adjustments or it was tramlining. Pumped up the tyres and it was fine.
Might be worth jacking the car up and seeing if there's any play in the wheels. Or check your rear brakes, are they corroded? They tend to bind on the CRZ. Maybe one of them is dragging.
When I got the CRZ, I remember the car would feel like it was kangerooing when coasting or pitch forward when braking. Turned out it was the rear brakes dragging.

Mercedes are worse. When my dad bought his Mercedes, on the motorway when you took your hands off the wheel it would start drifting and you constantly had to re-adjust it for it to go in a straight line. Felt like the alignment was out, took it back to the dealer and they said it was normal. We didn't believe the dealer so they took us out in a brand new car and it was exactly the same.
They said something about it being a safety feature in case the tyres blow out on the motorway. Weird...
 
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I have the standard 16's on. The steering is slightly sensitive and needs the odd tiny adjustment but the car generally tracks straight and doesn't drift.
Have you checked the tyre pressures? I remember when I got my other car the steering felt very sensitive and I had to make slight adjustments or it was tramlining. Pumped up the tyres and it was fine.
Might be worth jacking the car up and seeing if there's any play in the wheels. Or check your rear brakes, are they corroded? They tend to bind on the CRZ. Maybe one of them is dragging.
When I got the CRZ, I remember the car would feel like it was kangerooing when coasting or pitch forward when braking. Turned out it was the rear brakes dragging.

Mercedes are worse. When my dad bought his Mercedes, on the motorway when you took your hands off the wheel it would start drifting and you constantly had to re-adjust it for it to go in a straight line. Felt like the alignment was out, took it back to the dealer and they said it was normal. We didn't believe the dealer so they took us out in a brand new car and it was exactly the same.
They said something about it being a safety feature in case the tyres blow out on the motorway. Weird...
The tires are new and the pressure is fine. It free wheels fine. Slight grade and it rolls in neutral. It just has very sensitive steering and I have to pay attention at freeway speeds. Not a real big deal, just a bit different but then the car is a bit different. Just gettin use to it. Thanks
 
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I have a 2015 EX 6-speed with 22,000 miles. I’ve owned the car for two years and I noticed the same thing on the highway. It becomes more prominent with a few different scenarios.

On my stock wheels I have snow tires. Snow tires are are a softer compound and my car wiggles and wobbles all over the highway when I have them on.

My summer setup consists of 17” Enkei RPF1’s. I can’t remember the tire size off of the top of my head but the actual diameter of the tire is the same size as the stock 16” setup. The tires are aggressive all seasons leaning towards full summer tire. The weird highway characteristics aren’t as bad with my summer setup.

The big differentiator I have found is what driving mode you are in. Sport tightens up the steering. This makes you have to adjust it more. If I put my car in normal or eco mode the steering softens up and you don’t have to fight with it as much. I think it’s just the characteristics of the car because I noticed the same thing and I’ve never experienced this with any other car I have owned.
 
#34 ·
I have a 2015 EX 6-speed with 22,000 miles. I’ve owned the car for two years and I noticed the same thing on the highway. It becomes more prominent with a few different scenarios.

On my stock wheels I have snow tires. Snow tires are are a softer compound and my car wiggles and wobbles all over the highway when I have them on.

My summer setup consists of 17” Enkei RPF1’s. I can’t remember the tire size off of the top of my head but the actual diameter of the tire is the same size as the stock 16” setup. The tires are aggressive all seasons leaning towards full summer tire. The weird highway characteristics aren’t as bad with my summer setup.

The big differentiator I have found is what driving mode you are in. Sport tightens up the steering. This makes you have to adjust it more. If I put my car in normal or eco mode the steering softens up and you don’t have to fight with it as much. I think it’s just the characteristics of the car because I noticed the same thing and I’ve never experienced this with any other car I have owned.
This is crazy! My experience is, it seems to drift or the steering is more sensitive in econ and normal. When I put it in Sport on the freeway it tightens up the steering and seems to track better and the steering is not quite as sensitive, however it drives the RPMs up about 6-7 hundred and gas milage plummets. I had the rear wheels looked at and there is no break rubbing. Both rear wheels freely spin the same so that issue is put to bed. Its not an OMG issue anyway. I just have had to be more aware on the freeway which I am rarely on any more. Any town road 60 mph and under there is Zero issue. Like you, I have never owned a car in 66 years that was this sensitive to your movements or this effortless to steer. Thanks for the come back. Much appreciated.
 
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