The only thing I have heard is 0-60 in around or just under 9 seconds.
Specs: 0-60 times
Have we been released any information about possible 0-60 times at all? Or even maybe 1/4 mile time?
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Yup, just like Hargert said - all estimates have been around 9ish seconds.
The question remains, is that considered good enough for a new 2 seater Honda sports car, or do people want a lower 0-60?
I wouldn't mind seeing it closer to the 8 - 8.5 second range personally.
Here's a cool chart with some cars 0-60 times just to compare (older gen. cars however) - Performance Statistics
The question remains, is that considered good enough for a new 2 seater Honda sports car, or do people want a lower 0-60?
I wouldn't mind seeing it closer to the 8 - 8.5 second range personally.
Here's a cool chart with some cars 0-60 times just to compare (older gen. cars however) - Performance Statistics
9 seconds!! I really hope they mean like 8.7s and not like 9.2s.
How can it be something as high as 9 seconds+ ?
Apples to oranges the Insight is less powerful than the civic hybrid but can beat it's launch time. The CR-Z hopefully will weight even less, plus gain a larger engine. If it's stil only marginally quicker than a stock R18 civic then a TDI looks a great deal more attractive purcgase to me personally.
Apples to oranges the Insight is less powerful than the civic hybrid but can beat it's launch time. The CR-Z hopefully will weight even less, plus gain a larger engine. If it's stil only marginally quicker than a stock R18 civic then a TDI looks a great deal more attractive purcgase to me personally.
9 seconds is way to high. Time for honda to throw in a turbocharger and lower it. Maybe it weighs 4000+ lbs hahaha
Looks like Honda has some work to do on their 0-60 numbers 
Looks like the VW diesel Blue Sport will spank it. The diesel has lots of low end torque which would give it much better acceleration + the diesel will weigh less bcus it doesnt use heavy batteries
Lots of carbon fiber would improve this but its not cheap
If VW doesn't build the Blue Sport I was considering building my own by building a diesel powered Porsche 914 or a high MPG C6 Vette
RE the Porsche 914 I was thinking of a VW 2.0 TDI from a Jetta, great thing about the turbo is it could be swapped for a larger turbo or be given more boost and the 914 is very light with an excellent chassis.
RE the Vette I'd look for a crashed Z06 for the aluminum frame and carbon fenders and add a carbon hood, roof, and other carbon bits from race cars. Then drop in a 400hp LS3 instead of the 505hp LS7. I'd also install a solar panel in back under the hatch to power the AC & accesories so they work in traffic with the engine off. That of course would require a device that kills engine when you stop and restarts it quickly. I think the weight could be 3000# or under. If the base C6 gets 30mpg hwy a Vette like this could probably see 35mpg pretty easily maybe more depending on how ones drives
Lots of carbon fiber would improve this but its not cheap
If VW doesn't build the Blue Sport I was considering building my own by building a diesel powered Porsche 914 or a high MPG C6 Vette
RE the Porsche 914 I was thinking of a VW 2.0 TDI from a Jetta, great thing about the turbo is it could be swapped for a larger turbo or be given more boost and the 914 is very light with an excellent chassis.
RE the Vette I'd look for a crashed Z06 for the aluminum frame and carbon fenders and add a carbon hood, roof, and other carbon bits from race cars. Then drop in a 400hp LS3 instead of the 505hp LS7. I'd also install a solar panel in back under the hatch to power the AC & accesories so they work in traffic with the engine off. That of course would require a device that kills engine when you stop and restarts it quickly. I think the weight could be 3000# or under. If the base C6 gets 30mpg hwy a Vette like this could probably see 35mpg pretty easily maybe more depending on how ones drives
So lets say the Honda CRZ runs a 0-60 in 8.75, what would this translate to in a 1/4 miler time?
Well if the JDM brochure is correct looks like the 0-60 MPH time will be in at 9.7 secs.
Did Honda make or break your sale, or do you even mind what the 0-60 time is?
Did Honda make or break your sale, or do you even mind what the 0-60 time is?
They still have my sale but they pretty much have since the very beginning. Any changes since the concepts have just been bonuses to me.
0-60 in 9.7sec kills the deal for me. It wouldn't suprise me if they put a larger gas engine in the US Spec model, or possibly offer an "si" version with higher output to complement the "hf" 1.5L
So who was the closest guess?
Can I still guess 9.7 seconds ?! :grin:
Can I still guess 9.7 seconds ?! :grin:
Was a bit disapointed at first, but for a 122 PS car that has to carry some hybrid gear its not that bad. Eg. a Mini Cooper with 120 HP needs 9,3 to 100 km/h (real test figure with a car that has some equipment such as A/C) and does 28 mpg.
Then there is the question if the 9,7s figure is for the CVT or the MT car and even if it is for the MT car, the 0-100 is only a very rough performance indicator. I'd really like to know the gearing and final drive of the MT...
Then there is the question if the 9,7s figure is for the CVT or the MT car and even if it is for the MT car, the 0-100 is only a very rough performance indicator. I'd really like to know the gearing and final drive of the MT...
Interesting you bring this up, because I was looking at Mini's website last night for those figures. Check this out (BTW, this is all USA Spec):Was a bit disapointed at first, but for a 122 PS car that has to carry some hybrid gear its not that bad. Eg. a Mini Cooper with 120 HP needs 9,3 to 100 km/h (real test figure with a car that has some equipment such as A/C) and does 28 mpg.
Then there is the question if the 9,7s figure is for the CVT or the MT car and even if it is for the MT car, the 0-100 is only a very rough performance indicator. I'd really like to know the gearing and final drive of the MT...
-The Base Mini Cooper makes 118hp at 6000 RPM, and 114tq at 4250 RPM. The 6-MT weighs 2568 lbs. Official 0-60 time from Mini's site is 8.5s. Combined 32MPG
-The Base CRZ makes 122hp at 6000 RPM, 128tq at 1000 RPM. The 6-MT weighs 2670 lbs. No official 0-60 time. EST 33mpg combined.
**The CRZ is 102 lbs heavier, BUT makes more HP and TQ overall, with the key being the fact that the CRZ max TQ is at just 1000 rpm's.
**The 9.7s that everyone is quoting is actually based on 0-62, NOT 0-60, AND that was the Japanese spec where the CRZ has a BACK SEAT (More Weight), AND it doesn't specify if that is for the MT or CVT, although I would imagine that was the 0-62 for the CVT given the fact that Honda stated the 6-mt will have very aggressive 1-5 gears, and an economical 6th gear..
My Prediction?
The 6-MT will go 0-60 in 8.6s,
The CVT will go 0-60 in 9.2s
Another Predicion:
When you test drive this car in Sport Mode you will forget about 0-60 becuase you will be grinning due to your 128tq @ 1000rpm and the Civic-SI-like Handling.
Let's hope so - I am trying very hard not to judge the car based just on specs until I can get out there and test drive oneAnother Predicion:
When you test drive this car in Sport Mode you will forget about 0-60 becuase you will be grinning due to your 128tq @ 1000rpm and the Civic-SI-like Handling.
I was extremely disappointed when I saw the final specs yesterday, but the more I look at all the information (official and unofficial), the more encouraged I am.Let's hope so - I am trying very hard not to judge the car based just on specs until I can get out there and test drive one
I like the fact that the car has a 3-mode driving system, because I truly believe it will be capable of averaging 40mpg in Econ mode, and extremely fun driving in Sport mode. With the base price at under $20k, I think they got it right. Honda doesn't plan to build this in high volume, and doesn't expect it to sell in high volume; that being said, I think they did a good job.
I was quite interested in the CR-Z as a downsize replacement for my 2004 Accord Coupe V6MT (0-60 in low 6s) but I'm dismayed at the performance. The definitive Sports Car is probably the Mazda Miata with 0-60 in the 7.0 to 8.0 range. I don't think the CR-Z can be called a Sports Car when most Mini-Vans and SUVs on the road could beat it in normal traffic, and probably on a twisty road! I'll wait to drive it and hope I'm wrong, but the Toyota FT-86 is looking more like the probable replacement for me.Well if the JDM brochure is correct looks like the 0-60 MPH time will be in at 9.7 secs.
Did Honda make or break your sale, or do you even mind what the 0-60 time is?
why do i always read that they're gonna pass on this CR-Z and wait for the FT-86 when that car is supposed to be in the $30k+ range???
i mean it's not even in the same class/league as the CR-Z... that's like me saying "i'm gonna pass on the CR-Z and just get EvoX"
i mean it's not even in the same class/league as the CR-Z... that's like me saying "i'm gonna pass on the CR-Z and just get EvoX"
What got me interested was that Honda called the CR-Z a "Sports Car". That's what I'm looking for and unfortunately the performance numbers do not appear to be in what I think is Sports Car territory (8 secs or less to 60). So it may be on to a Toyota but I'll certainly drive the CR-Z first. The EvoX doesn't fit my definition of a Sports Car either - two doors , two seats only!why do i always read that they're gonna pass on this CR-Z and wait for the FT-86 when that car is supposed to be in the $30k+ range???
i mean it's not even in the same class/league as the CR-Z... that's like me saying "i'm gonna pass on the CR-Z and just get EvoX"
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