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Sense the US market got screwed out of push 2 start thought I would share this.
Found this company and this system is one of the best I have seen.
Advanced Keys - AK-103B Smart Key with Push Start System
Integrating with most Honda systems will require a XpressKit module by DEI, theses are the same modules we use to add remote start/alarm systems to most newer cars.
I would defiantly suggest professional installation for something like this and while your at it throw in a DEI Remote start and alarm system with one of these Smart start systems.Viper SmartStart Installed one of these the other day and boy it was slick!
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Also can someone post some pics of the factory EU/JPN starter button location, is it in the steering column? if not some pics of the steering column to.
 

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The button is supposed to be on the right side of the steering wheel between the steering column and the HVAC controls. Actually, if you get the light just right (cabin lights on at night or a flashlight at an angle) you can actually see a circle in the plastic where the hole is filled/would be cut.
 

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The button is supposed to be on the right side of the steering wheel between the steering column and the HVAC controls. Actually, if you get the light just right (cabin lights on at night or a flashlight at an angle) you can actually see a circle in the plastic where the hole is filled/would be cut.
I noticed this just yesterday! Talk about adding insult to injury!
 

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seems like a cool idea... i'd prefer to add the Honda start button just b/c it's red (and OEM) and not like the ones shown on that site...

i'd really like to know if an OEM Honda kit can be imported for this install???

The button is supposed to be on the right side of the steering wheel between the steering column and the HVAC controls. Actually, if you get the light just right (cabin lights on at night or a flashlight at an angle) you can actually see a circle in the plastic where the hole is filled/would be cut.
I noticed this just yesterday! Talk about adding insult to injury!
i noticed this on the first test drive :sadwavey:
 

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Advanced Keys website said:
Enjoy the ability to start your vehicle with a single light tap of the start button. The new engine tach input learns your vehicle's engine idle speed and give that perfect crank everytime.
Would be interetsing to see how this reacts with the Auto Stop feature of the CRZ.
 

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From talking to the techs at Honda the possibility of adding Honda's factory push to start is slim to none. It would require a completely different main Wiring harness, BCM module, key fob receiver module, key fobs, and the button its self... not to mention installation, bringing a total over the $3-4000 dollar range... absolutely ridiculous. With a piece like this and the DEI BypassKit Module and installation your more in the range of $6-800 dollars. The part I liked about this module is you never take your keys out of your pocket again. The credit card shaped key fob can be placed in your wallet or pocket, simply walk up to the car and it unlocks your doors. Get in start and drive, shuts it down with a simply press of the button, get out and walk away and it automatically locks you doors. I have seen many other systems like StarDrive - Push Button Ignition System this piece has the option of a red button and is also a cool piece, I just fell in love with the auto locking and unlocking the Advanced Keys - AK-103B Smart Key with Push Start System

Either one of these systems should work just fine with the auto stop function, that is all controlled by the BCM and these modules only monitor tach when you push the button to start the car or to shut it down. But that is a good question, my company is in contact with Advanced Keys to become a vendor, I will definatly ask them about this.
 

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From talking to the techs at Honda the possibility of adding Honda's factory push to start is slim to none. It would require a completely different main Wiring harness, BCM module, key fob receiver module, key fobs, and the button its self... not to mention installation, bringing a total over the $3-4000 dollar range... absolutely ridiculous.
those techs don't have a clue what they are saying... i installed a push start on my 2006 Si by tapping into the ignition wires and adding a relay etc... the CR-Z should be the same as far as installing a push start goes...

i'm not talking about the exact system described in the first post... just the "push button" part of the system...

here's what was used to install it and how it looked after the install... S2K button, relay, some wire + taps, and a plug from an old computer...




and a video of it working...

 

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those techs don't have a clue what they are saying... i installed a push start on my 2006 Si by tapping into the ignition wires and adding a relay etc... the CR-Z should be the same as far as installing a push start goes...

i'm not talking about the exact system described in the first post... just the "push button" part of the system...

here's what was used to install it and how it looked after the install... S2K button, relay, some wire + taps, and a plug from an old computer...
Actually being an aftermarket installation specialist myself and having good report with all the techs at all the many different dealerships.. I can say they do have a clue of what they are talking about, and what I am talking about... What you did with the simple push to start button you added on your 2006 SI is something I have done time and time again. It will work.. somewhat. I am sure you had to still put your key in the ignition and if you attempted to do something similar on the CR-Z without the installation of bypass modules you would have to put your key in the ignition and turn in before you could press the start button to start the car.. so whats the point? The systems I have pointed out in this thread would allow you to completely never have to put you key in the ignition and turn the key ever again. In fact, you you would be be best to remove the key ignition and buy the new OEM steering column pieces to cover the hole. These systems are the closest to factory push to start systems you can find in the aftermarket industry! But anybody can buy a $10 switch, drill a hole, T-tap a couple wires and say I have push to start... Or, you could do it right...
 

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Actually being an aftermarket installation specialist myself and having good report with all the techs at all the many different dealerships.. I can say they do have a clue of what they are talking about, and what I am talking about... What you did with the simple push to start button you added on your 2006 SI is something I have done time and time again. It will work.. somewhat. I am sure you had to still put your key in the ignition and if you attempted to do something similar on the CR-Z without the installation of bypass modules you would have to put your key in the ignition and turn in before you could press the start button to start the car.. so whats the point? The systems I have pointed out in this thread would allow you to completely never have to put you key in the ignition and turn the key ever again. In fact, you you would be be best to remove the key ignition and buy the new OEM steering column pieces to cover the hole. These systems are the closest to factory push to start systems you can find in the aftermarket industry! But anybody can buy a $10 switch, drill a hole, T-tap a couple wires and say I have push to start... Or, you could do it right...
since my button came from an S2K, on that car you still have to put the key in, turn it, then push the button for it to start... mine worked EXACTLY the same... so that was the RIGHT way...

of course we're talking about two different installations here... i was JUST referring to the push start portion... nothing more, nothing less... of course if you want all the rest, you will either need the OEM wire harness... or go aftermarket like you're suggesting...

but i think even with all aftermarket stuff, that button that's provided can still be swapped out for the OEM button... unless that button does something more than just push in and start the car?
 

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Would be interetsing to see how this reacts with the Auto Stop feature of the CRZ.
Talked to Advanced Start yesterday and asked them about this, They said the push 2 start system would in no way be affected by the auto stop feature. This system essentially replaces your manual ignition with an electronic one that is activated by a key fob being in range of the car and pushing the button.

since my button came from an S2K, on that car you still have to put the key in, turn it, then push the button for it to start... mine worked EXACTLY the same... so that was the RIGHT way...

of course we're talking about two different installations here... i was JUST referring to the push start portion... nothing more, nothing less... of course if you want all the rest, you will either need the OEM wire harness... or go aftermarket like you're suggesting...

but i think even with all aftermarket stuff, that button that's provided can still be swapped out for the OEM button... unless that button does something more than just push in and start the car?
In reference to the "Right way", all I meant was how the automotive manufacturers do push to start. Like I said in a previous post I have installed many push to start buttons in many cars the same way you did in yours. It is a cost effective solution.

I personally love how factory push to start systems work, not having to put a key in and have your whole key chain dangling while you drive. :thumbsup: In the past it was not an option to install and aftermarket system like this with out spending way to much money on the factory option, and that was only if it was an option from the factory for the car you bought.

Welcome to Advanced Keys uses OEM Lexus/Toyota buttons and the OEM control module made a few tweaks so it can be universally installed in any car. StarDrive - Push Button Ignition System Actually uses factory Nissan buttons, which if you wand a red button the offer the GTR button.

I personally think these systems are reasonably priced. The star system Is $479 and it includes a full security system and the red GTR button, also I read this on the page "Can I use a different push button with StarDrive?
Yes, use any N/O push button. Two ways to do it, 1) Send us the push button and we will build and test. 2) We send you a StarDrive with a button harness and pin out and you can connect your push button yourself." I really suggest having professional installation on these, but most car audio shops would install this for around 100-200.

Happy Modding!
 

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In reference to the "Right way", all I meant was how the automotive manufacturers do push to start. Like I said in a previous post I have installed many push to start buttons in many cars the same way you did in yours. It is a cost effective solution.
gotcha :hi5:
Welcome to Advanced Keys uses OEM Lexus/Toyota buttons and the OEM control module made a few tweaks so it can be universally installed in any car. StarDrive - Push Button Ignition System Actually uses factory Nissan buttons, which if you wand a red button the offer the GTR button.

I personally think these systems are reasonably priced. The star system Is $479 and it includes a full security system and the red GTR button, ...
nice... i thought those were Lexus buttons i first saw lol... and about the Nissan company, sorry but i would not dare in my life use Nissan parts on my Honda :haysmiley: i don't really like the GT-R button too much either... i drove my friends GT-R a few times and i always remarked at how i didn't like the button... (ok maybe i didn't say anything about it then, but thinking about it, i don't really care for that button)...


thanks for the info :thumbsup:
 

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nice... i thought those were Lexus buttons i first saw lol... and about the Nissan company, sorry but i would not dare in my life use Nissan parts on my Honda :haysmiley: i don't really like the GT-R button too much either... i drove my friends GT-R a few times and i always remarked at how i didn't like the button... (ok maybe i didn't say anything about it then, but thinking about it, i don't really care for that button)...


thanks for the info :thumbsup:[/QUOTE]

True that, don't really care for the red Nissan button myself but was very happy to see that the company will allow you to use any button of your choice. Could just order the secuity system and key fobs and order the factory CR-Z button if you like :thumbsup: I ordered the system from Advanced keys yesterday, Not sure when I am going to have a chance to install it but when I do I will post some more info and pictures. :pics:

i had a Clifford alarm on my '98 Civic hatch and it also had remote start... but that was some years ago and that system required the car to be shut off a certain way and the alarm must not have gone off or the remote start would not work...
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We sell Clifford at my shop and you can put them on a Manual, like Bizzy said you have to set your parking brake, take your foot off the brake, engage the remote start, get out of the car and arm the alarm, the the engine will shut off. And as long as you don't disarm the alarm or set off the alarm, you can then remote start it from the comfort of your house.:)
 

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yeah, i kinda hated it b/c unlike when i had it on the car b4 the Civic... on that one it could go off as many times as it wanted and would start every time... on the Civic, i had to set my sensitivity really low so my alarm wouldn't go off and ruin that start...

it did fool ppl thinking i had a turbo timer on the stock D15 non-vtec :giggle:
 
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