[mugen-nl]

Hello,

Recently I bought a CR-Z and didn't really know much about them. When I purchased it it already had a orange info light. I did a quick search but nothing really popped up and I didn't think anything of it. But now I'm realising I do not have all functions the MID should have, I can't see my MPG's or customize the settings. Also can't find/view the maintenance screen.

See the images below, hopefully someone has experience with this.

 

[ryanthegreat1]

Time to find another instrument cluster.

 

[mugen-nl]

Time to find another instrument cluster.

Thanks for the reply, I can manage that. Do you know if it's possible to set it to my current millage?

 

[Spdbump]

In Different Domestic markets, the menus and options in the MID were different. Another member could not get to the settings screen. For his market, the parking brake had to be on and the settings menu looked like an icon of a piece of paper. Before changing your cluster, get a hold of the owner's manual for the market it was built for, or turn on the parking brake and go through every menu and every option. That member was looking for how to set the clock that shows up in the MID when the OEM radio is replaced with an aftermarket market one.

Here is that thread. He also could not find the customize options menu. It was not a failure as the other member mentioned, it just was his vehicle was from a different market, and he did not have an owner's manual. He was able to find the menu.

How to set the multi-display information clock?

So mine has an aftermarket head unit, so it's showing the time on the MID. It doesn't show the correct time and I have no idea how to set it. I've read some threads here that say I need to scroll to customize settings. But there's one problem: mine doesn't have that. When I scroll through the...

www.crzforum.com

You seem to have a similar issue with the menus and finding the settings. It is IMO is not a failure, as the other member in this thread has mentioned now 2 times. It is a lack of understanding of the correct sequence of inputs to access the functions all CR-Zs have some variation of.

As I told him, there has to be an options or settings menu for mundane things like resetting the trip odometer. It has to be there. It just might not be labeled the same as a US domestic market car is. Those MID menus and available options change a lot between years and markets. An example is not every market has the maintenance minder. Some markets have a speed alert, etc.

You need the owner's manual for the correct market to decode what the light means and how to get to the settings menu, which all CR-Zs have some version of. Not all things are failures, some are just different depending on year and market the vehicle was built for. You probably have the functions, you just need to know how to access them. The link above the guy kept insisting he did not, but once he put on the parking brake and looked at every menu and option he found it. The odd thing is the owner's manual does not mention that magical clock that shows up when you remove the OEM radio!

For US cars, we can access the owner's manual here Honda Owners Site | Tips, Tools & Benefits for Honda Owners I believe most markets have a similar free page to download and read the owner's manual. If you do not have a correct owner's manual for your car, talk to a Honda representative about obtaining a printed one, it has lots of very useful information you need to have.

In summary, do more research and don't jump to conclusions.

Hello,

Recently I bought a CR-Z and didn't really know much about them. When I purchased it it already had a orange info light. I did a quick search but nothing really popped up and I didn't think anything of it. But now I'm realising I do not have all functions the MID should have, I can't see my MPG's or customize the settings. Also can't find/view the maintenance screen.

See the images below, hopefully someone has experience with this.

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[da-coder]

Thanks for the reply, I can manage that. Do you know if it's possible to set it to my current millage?

Note: this is from the US version of the FSM:

I think the dealer is your best option.
When it comes to stuff like this it's almost always possible. It just might not be legal (or feasible).

 

[Spdbump]

Note: this is from the US version of the FSM:
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I think the dealer is your best option.
When it comes to stuff like this it's almost always possible. It just might not be legal (or feasible).

But it may not be broken so will not need a new cluster! RTFM FIRST or check all options.

 

[ryanthegreat1]

You comfortable with soldering? Or know some good with electronics repair? The eeprom that contains the odometer data can be swapped.

One can, with the correct tools, read the eeprom and write the eeprom chip without removing it from the board. If you wanted to read your odometer and write it to your replacement odometer.

 

[Spdbump]

If it is really broken and not simply just a different menu with the settings options in a different order or with different Icons than we are used to, since it is a vehicle for a different market. Don't always default to broken and extreme repairs, it may just be different from the vehicle you own. When these things come up, you need to read the manual or check every menu and every option, like the guy with the MID clock had to do in the thread i referenced.

Not everything needs a programming solution, just knowledge.

You comfortable with soldering? Or know some good with electronics repair? The eeprom that contains the odometer data can be swapped.

One can, with the correct tools, read the eeprom and write the eeprom chip without removing it from the board. If you wanted to read your odometer and write it to your replacement odometer.

 

[ryanthegreat1]

Is the MID just blank like pictured all the time? Looks like the instantaneous fuel economy gauge is also not displaying correctly directly above the MID.

No trip miles or odometer in the MID?

 

[TNThomas]

I am from the same country as OP and can (unfortunately) confirm that this isn’t normal. All screens should be visible when parked and when driving, it doesn’t matter.

If I had this issue, I would go to a Honda dealership and ask for advice. Hopefully, they confirm that it can be easily replaced. If so, then buy a used gauge cluster and replace it yourself or via a local shop (I wouldn’t lay dealership prices).

In the Netherlands, four gauge clusters are for sale right now. Three of them are listed without a price and one is listed for €150. Both sellers are well-known junk yards for Japanese cars and can be trusted.

Link to parts: Honda CR-Z Tellerklokken voorraad | Onderdelenlijn.nl

 

[Spdbump]

It appeared from his explanation(I could not see the pictures) he could not get to the menus, if it is really broken, I would also recommend going to a dealer. There has to be, maybe a connector is loose or damaged wiring. It is a vehicle that never should have been sold with such a major system not working. Any kind of a warranty from the seller or maybe as a courtesy, a dealer can assist?

I am from the same country as OP and can (unfortunately) confirm that this isn’t normal. All screens should be visible when parked and when driving, it doesn’t matter.

If I had this issue, I would go to a Honda dealership and ask for advice. Hopefully, they confirm that it can be easily replaced. If so, then buy a used gauge cluster and replace it yourself or via a local shop (I wouldn’t lay dealership prices).

In the Netherlands, four gauge clusters are for sale right now. Three of them are listed without a price and one is listed for €150. Both sellers are well-known junk yards for Japanese cars and can be trusted.

Link to parts: Honda CR-Z Tellerklokken voorraad | Onderdelenlijn.nl

 

[mugen-nl]

Thanks for all the replies, I do have a few working menu's, most about the battery, my current trip and customize settings. I also tried to reset it to the default settings which didn't help either.

I did try to go through all the menu's with the parking brake up, didn't get anything extra.

My car has been imported from Germany, and I'm Dutch so reading the owner's manual takes me a while. But it does mention the average miles options and the maintance menu.

Also you can see it on the photo but the small display in the middle sometimes has 1 bar but most of the times shows nothing, probably something wrong there as well.

I might visit a dealer or if I can get a good deal on a used cluster I'll get it and just install it to see if that works to rule things out.

It is not a big deal or anything but if I can get it repaired for a reaonable price I'll try it.

Below some pics of the MID working on some views

 

[ryanthegreat1]

Huh, so it does display something in the MID but not everything that should be there. That amber alert light is interesting. I am trying to think of things that light that up but not also a MIL or IMA or Fuel light. Only thing that comes to mind is the day time running lights. Or it could just be a function of the instrument cluster failing.

 

[TNThomas]

For the owner’s manual, there have been English versions shared on thus forum, I think. Be aware that some functions differ between the US CR-Zs and the European ones, so the German manual is the best option for you… So you can use Google Translate to film the text and translate it on your screen. That’s what I sometimes do, since I imported my CR-Z also from Germany to the Netherlands.

In the yellow circle, the current fuel consumption should be shown.

Another thing that attracts my attention is the IMA battery bar on the top left. The current state of charge only shows one block. Has the CR-Z been sitting for a while or have you driven it regularly over the past days?

 

[mugen-nl]

thanks

 

[mugen-nl]

Thanks again for the replies, and Ryan let me know if you think of anything.

I also appreciate the translate tip Thomas, I'll try that tomorrow. The IMA battery bar is full now, the pictures from my last reply are from the advertisement so it was sitting there for a bit. Now that it is being driven it charges up fine.

 

[TNThomas]

If the pictures are from the advertisement, the screen was already broken there, I think. The part of the display that shows the current fuel consumption (yellow circle) is not how it should be. I would contact them and let them solve it for you (for example, pay for the fix at a local Honda dealership).

 

[Spdbump]

It appears you have no odometer for total miles/kilometers driven. In the US that would be a major legal issue. Other places I just don't know. I wonder if someone in this car's past tried to roll it back or do something else. Can it be homulgated to your local language? That would require replacement of the cluster or reprogramming. I don't know much about that process just know it exists when a vehicle is imported to different markets and is needed to make it a legal not gray market.

You may want to research that as an option but I have heard that process is expensive and needs a specialist.

 

[TNThomas]

The screen does show the total kilometers driven, see the second picture in post #12. In the bottom right, the kilometers are shown.

 

[Potato_Z]

I sincerely hope you bought the car with some sort of warranty, because they basically sold you a partially defective car.

Under Dutch law the seller has to disclose all the cars known problems / defects upon selling it, Now they could argue that they did since it's in the photo. But you clearly where not aware of the issue, so in my opinion they did not do a sufficient job.

I'd go talk with them and see if they can fix it for free, worst case threaten going to the police, because what they did is likely illegal.

Good luck!

EDIT: Changed some formatting to make it easier to read.