[kernk]

I think the filters are great, if you want it buy it. Dont let others suggest what you should and shouldnt do with your money. Its a proven great product hands down. I've had the same one in my fit for 3 years. Cleaned it every 6 months, no issues whatsoever.

Don't get me wrong, I really WANT to buy one. But I would like some non subjective reason to do so.

 

[JnC]

Do these filters require that the filter media be reoiled? And if you use too much oil, how does it affect the MAF?

 

[CRaZee]

Do these filters require that the filter media be reoiled? And if you use too much oil, how does it affect the MAF?

K&N's do require cleaning and re-oiling periodically. Too much oil can be messy, but unlikely that it will mess with the sensor.

This is from K&N's website:
K&N Response to Mass Air Flow Sensor Concerns

We are aware of the “urban myth” (K&N News Story) created by a few dealerships that a vehicle's MAF sensor can be contaminated by K&N filter oil. No evidence has ever been provided to support this “myth” and three years of diagnostic testing by K&N has shown that not only is this allegation not real, it is not even possible. In our opinion, it is an excuse for a dealership and/or the vehicle manufacturer to avoid a legitimate warranty repair. In the last 4 years, we have sold over 10,000,000 lifetime air filters and received only a few hundred calls from consumers who are having dealership or service provider challenges. We believe that Dealership's or service provider's real incentive may be to discourage the use of reusable products so they can sell disposable products over and over. In order to provide consumers with added comfort that they will not be placed in a bad position by an improper warranty denial, we offer our Consumer Protection Pledge.

 

[mdbrich]

Don't get me wrong, I really WANT to buy one. But I would like some non subjective reason to do so.

Im not telling you to go out there and buy one. I am just saying do what you will. I would get one buy I am personally waiting for a CAI. So there is no need for me to spend money now, then spend money later as previously stated in the thread.

 

[northbridge]

Do these filters require that the filter media be reoiled? And if you use too much oil, how does it affect the MAF?

Yes. too much oil will screw up a MAF sensor. If you do it properly you should have no problem, but if you use too much oil over time the MAF will start giving problems / reading incorrectly. Look on other forums, the information is there. Im not trying to argue with anyone here, but i have seen too much oil lead to MAF problems down the road. This should be a non issue if you oil the filter the correct way though.

 

[Shatner]

Yes. too much oil will screw up a MAF sensor. If you do it properly you should have no problem, but if you use too much oil over time the MAF will start giving problems / reading incorrectly. Look on other forums, the information is there. Im not trying to argue with anyone here, but i have seen too much oil lead to MAF problems down the road. This should be a non issue if you oil the filter the correct way though.

This is absolutely true. :thumbsup: :hi5:

I'm going to get one. In fact, I have one in my shopping cart in another tab. I'll let you guys know how it is.

EDIT: Bought

 

[91CRXTC]

i have had K&N filters on pretty much all my cars with a CAI and have not had problems with MAF sensor but install it correctly and you should be fine. The Layout of the engine bay makes me think that just going to a Speed shop and buying a 90* elbow or even a 45* would be as good unless you can get the piping to go outside the bay somewhere but that will come in warmer weather time so for now its a drop in K&N for me.

 

[91CRXTC]

well i just bought my drop in K&N bottom line cost $52 with tax and shipping from jegs.

 

[Shatner]

well i just bought my drop in K&N bottom line cost $52 with tax and shipping from jegs.

Wow, they're expensive at Jegs! I paid the same for the filter and a re oiling/cleaning kit straight from the K&N site.

 

[wicked1]

Mine will be here today.. Hopefully soon! I'm sort of waiting around @ home for it.. Going to have to leave for a job soon, tho .

 

[91CRXTC]

when i went to the k&n site and went to buy it online it gave me a list of stores to buy from, direct from k&n was not an option for me, guess they dont like me doing all this business with them.

 

[wicked1]

i'd personally recommend removing the silencer, etc, before installing any intake, including this filter.

I'm curious why, for this particular vehicle. I was just checking out the entire intake path and it's basically a CAI! It's just a wide round (or oval) tube leading from the grill to the air box, and from the box directly to the engine. no extra funny resonating chambers or extra bends or anything.
There is a snorkel that leads down towards the fender, but there isn't anything directing air to it or restricting flow where the tubes meet. I think it's there simply to catch sound waves.
If anything, there's like one extra elbow which I guess wouldn't be there, ideally.. But it really isn't bad.
(and I think the fact that extra elbow is directing cold air from the grill to the engine, vs sucking from under the hood makes it worth it)

(I'm inexperienced, so if there are reasons I'm wrong, let me know)

ps k&n filter is installed. Butt dyno testing was inconclusive. The car still works, tho

 

[lldsandsll]

i'd need to look again, but it looked like my accord, where the air actually travels through long tubing bending around many engine components, and passing through multiple chambers.

 

[91CRXTC]

^^^^^^^ i wonder if hes is talking about an intake silencer or exhaust. if there is a resonator on the exhaust then that will be removed as well in time.

 

[northbridge]

^ i think he is referring to a resonator box commonly attached to honda stock intakes...

 

[90CRXsi]

So, what's this magic thing we can spend our money on right now for this particular vehicle that will give us this great WHP per dollar? I keep reading on various threads the same sort of response.. don't waste your money, there are better things...

What are these things!?!? I really want to tweak my car.

(this is sort of rhetorical as I ordered one of these filters and I can't wait to put it in the car.. but if there is something I've missed that will give me some great gains for the money for this vehicle right now, I'd like to hear what it is)

--Unless you meant better things that aren't car related.. In that case, sure there are, but to each his own.

The car is still very new and since it's not exactly a performance car parts with actual gains are going to trickle in very slowly. If you just want to "mod" your car then go for it. It doesn't matter what you buy as long as you're happy buying it. If you want to tune your car for power you're going to have to wait, if you want to do it smart. The only way to actually pull real power is with forced induction or a K or B series engine swap. As for bolt ons, I never buy anything unless its from a company I trust [AEM, Greddy, etc] or if I've seen proven dyno sheets from individuals.

 

[Shatner]

when i went to the k&n site and went to buy it online it gave me a list of stores to buy from, direct from k&n was not an option for me, guess they dont like me doing all this business with them.

I didn't see it at first. It was above the box w/ all the companies in it. It wasn't a picture, just a link that said "K&N store". Don't fret.

I'm curious why, for this particular vehicle. I was just checking out the entire intake path and it's basically a CAI! It's just a wide round (or oval) tube leading from the grill to the air box, and from the box directly to the engine. no extra funny resonating chambers or extra bends or anything.
There is a snorkel that leads down towards the fender, but there isn't anything directing air to it or restricting flow where the tubes meet. I think it's there simply to catch sound waves.
If anything, there's like one extra elbow which I guess wouldn't be there, ideally.. But it really isn't bad.
(and I think the fact that extra elbow is directing cold air from the grill to the engine, vs sucking from under the hood makes it worth it)

(I'm inexperienced, so if there are reasons I'm wrong, let me know)

ps k&n filter is installed. Butt dyno testing was inconclusive. The car still works, tho

I do think you are correct about no funny business in the intake ductwork.

Subaru WRX and STi both have a "snorkus" in the passenger fender. The factory intake ducting with the snorkus removed, w/ a good drop in filter was good for ~500 crank HP. A company made a "Snorkus delete pipe" that was essentially an elbow to connect both of the pipes in the fender after you removed the snorkus. I made ~ 420whp with that setup on a GT25 turbo with a 44mm external wastegate.

Yes, Apples: oranges::turbo:n/a

 

[Shatner]

Well i got mine. I've had it for a few days and have pot about 500 miles with it. No real power increase, but the throttle response is almost instant, with a cvt.

Oh yeah, I seem to have gained 4-5 mpg with the same driving style.

About what I expected. I'm happy with my purchase.

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[JnC]

Oh yeah, I seem to have gained 4-5 mpg with the same driving style.

That seems extreme. How are you measuring this? Thx!

 

[CRZ_for_me]

Well i got mine. I've had it for a few days and have pot about 500 miles with it. No real power increase, but the throttle response is almost instant, with a cvt.

Oh yeah, I seem to have gained 4-5 mpg with the same driving style.

About what I expected. I'm happy with my purchase.

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Thanks. I would honestly love to see how this stacked up to the HKS unit or any other CAI for the CRZ. With imports, I worry about intakes losing power in the lower range.