Honda CRZ MPG and the Competition

In for this.

Car Model - City / Hwy MPG

2nd Gen Honda Insight - 40 / 43 MPG
2010 Toyota Prius - 51/48
Toyota FT-86 Concept - unreleased
2009 Honda Fit - 27/33
2010 Honda Fit Hybrid - est. 50

If you know anymore or have update info feel free to post and we can update the information.

CRZ will fit right in the middle it looks like, nothing groundbreaking but still impressive

Hmm interesting numbers. Any more direct future competition?? If the CRZ does well I'm sure many car companies will release sporty hybrids, Honda just did it first :grin:

Does anyone else see the VW line up of cars as competition for the CRZ? Especially with their diesel lineup. Or is the VW in a different class of cars in peoples opinion?

Different class

Great to see all these high MPG numbers. The CRZ estimated numbers are looking very promising.

GoHybrid said:

Great to see all these high MPG numbers. The CRZ estimated numbers are looking very promising.

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Not anymore!!! Lets hope the rumor from the other thread is false. If it isn't the CRZ will have no competition because every car will be far superior with their higher gas mileage. The CRZ will be in a league of its own and not in a good one.

HondaFan said:

Not anymore!!! Lets hope the rumor from the other thread is false. If it isn't the CRZ will have no competition because every car will be far superior with their higher gas mileage. The CRZ will be in a league of its own and not in a good one.

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:cursing::cursing:

I"m thinking its just a bad rumor guys nothing to worry about

Is the VW anywhere close to production or is it still just a rumor and a concept car? Does it come in a hard top version at all because I think that could strictly limit its market if only offered in a convertible like your picture. That leaves CRZ to pick up the leftovers so to speak.

It looks like Peugeot is also coming out with a competitor car. Whether it will be close to the same price range will be hard to say, but it will be a 2+2 seater.

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Again, I would like to remind everybody that the EPA estimated mileage formula that went into effect with the 2008 model year penalizes hybrids at a much higher rate than gas and diesel cars. Every hybrid owner I know (okay, two Prius and one Civic owner) gets significantly better mileage than the EPA estimates.

Historically, sports cars are purchased for their fun and style factors first, and mileage has not been an important purchase decision. But with hybrids we expect more mpg and I'm sure Honda will deliver a high quotient of fun, style AND economy. Just remember that fun and entertainment usually come at a price. Let's hope it's a small one.

I'm a bit over half a tank and thus far, according to the car, I'm getting about 38.4mpg. This is however, after a canyon run with rx-8's in sport mode and showing several friends/family the sport mode acceleration and and average speed of like 20mph.

What I don't understand though, is if Ford can make a 309hp V6 Mustang that reportedly gets up to 30mpg, shouldnt my lightweight 4 cylinder, 2 seater, hybrid with 122hp get like 70mpg?

BlackBullet said:

What I don't understand though, is if Ford can make a 309hp V6 Mustang that reportedly gets up to 30mpg, shouldnt my lightweight 4 cylinder, 2 seater, hybrid with 122hp get like 70mpg?

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Well, you're comparing EPA hwy of a gas car to a hybrid. When the EPA calculations were revised, hybrid mpgs were penalized anywhere from 10 to 30% of how they were determined previously. Also test methods are to include cold temps and a/c load to reflect "real world" situations that are more detrimental to hybrids.

So let's breakdown what you're comparing.

You got real world over half a tank: 38.4 combined average mpg.

You're comparing that to the EPA hwy mpg of a V6 Mustang which is 31. The Mustang's EPA city is... 19. It's combined EPA is only 23.

But comparing EPA to real world is tough. Ideally you need find someone who drove the Mustang in the same distance, speed, manner and conditions as you drove the CRZ.