[rob312t]

OK guys so i have seen a few threads about the engine in the CRZ, but what about the hybrid system / and the battery??
Does anyone know if this is just going to be the same system from the Insight? Or will it be something newer and more technically advanced?

 

[ArchRival]

Definetly sounds like the same system as the Insight, which is probably a good safe idea. At least its proven. Hopefully with a better battery that will last longer though - technology advancement should provide for it by the time the CRZ is out.

 

[HondaFan]

Whats the Insights average battery life?

 

[BlackCivic]

Not long enough :lol:

 

[Riddler]

Would be interested to know Insights actual battery life average too.....
Anyone know?

 

[Nemesis]

Checking many sites it seems to be an average 7 years....which is great if you don't exceed the mile rating on the battery insurance

 

[TimDH]

If I get a CRZ I will probably use some of the reconditioning methods used by the Insight I folks. From what I understand they have developed a way to charge the battery off the grid (low amperage) once a month and then using a dummy load drain it off. I guess that helps the battery stay healthy. Some folks have gotten over 200,000 miles out of their battery pack. There is also a couple of companies that rebuild battery packs if they are out of warranty and from what I gather that will cost just about $1000. From what I've learned when a pack goes bad there may be only a few cells that are weak or have failed and all the others are OK. Simply replace the bad cells and your good to go again for maybe 80,000 miles or more. There is no need to replace the whole pack unless it is covered under warranty.

Battery anxiety (cost of repair) does not worry me.

 

[MikeCR-Z]

From the sounds of it, the battery rebuild business could be the next big thing if we see the continual increased sale of hybrids. Hopefully it will ultimately drive down the costs to rebuild the batteries as well.

 

[hybridrepair]

From the sounds of it, the battery rebuild business could be the next big thing if we see the continual increased sale of hybrids. Hopefully it will ultimately drive down the costs to rebuild the batteries as well.

As the only person in that business (at least for Honda hybrids) I can tell you that the demand isn't there yet.

That 7 year quote is from me. I'm seeing batteries die at anywhere from 60K to 300K miles with the median being around 170K. Of course, I don't see any that die before the car hits 80K miles because they are under warranty.

 

[crz2luv]

Good to hear that they last 7 years!.....bad news for you though if you're in the repair business

 

[hybridrepair]

Good to hear that they last 7 years!.....bad news for you though if you're in the repair business

Not when they have an 8 year warranty.

 

[crz2luv]

:lol: :lol:

 

[GoHuskies]

I assume those of us in the select improved warranty states can still count on the 10 year / 150,000 coverage. :closedeyes:

 

[Blake]

How do we know if we are in a improved warranty state?

 

[GoHuskies]

2010 Honda Civic Hybrid - Warranty - Official Honda Web Site

Battery Limited Warranty=8 years/100,000 miles (ULEV rating) (non-CARB states)

CARB states are the 13 stats that follow CA's EPA lead. If you state requires PZEV vehicles then you live in a carb state. Basically the west coast and northeast.

 

[Csidewolf]

In the uk we only get 5 years on the CR-Z battery , 2 years less than the 2010 insight!

 

[YLA]

5 in the EU idd.

And how much does a whole new OEM costs?

 

[cord77]

In the uk we only get 5 years on the CR-Z battery , 2 years less than the 2010 insight!

In the uk the battery and related electronics are 8 years warranty according to my dealer

 

[YLA]

5 on the battery, 8 on the elec motor as far as my dealer told me

 

[cord77]

5 on the battery, 8 on the elec motor as far as my dealer told me

I've fired off another email to Honda UK support about this. If my dealer has given me wrong info again I will go ballistic.