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OK guys so i have seen a few threads about the engine in the CRZ, but what about the hybrid system / and the battery??
Does anyone know if this is just going to be the same system from the Insight? Or will it be something newer and more technically advanced?
 

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Definetly sounds like the same system as the Insight, which is probably a good safe idea. At least its proven. Hopefully with a better battery that will last longer though - technology advancement should provide for it by the time the CRZ is out.
 

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Checking many sites it seems to be an average 7 years....which is great if you don't exceed the mile rating on the battery insurance
 

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If I get a CRZ I will probably use some of the reconditioning methods used by the Insight I folks. From what I understand they have developed a way to charge the battery off the grid (low amperage) once a month and then using a dummy load drain it off. I guess that helps the battery stay healthy. Some folks have gotten over 200,000 miles out of their battery pack. There is also a couple of companies that rebuild battery packs if they are out of warranty and from what I gather that will cost just about $1000. From what I've learned when a pack goes bad there may be only a few cells that are weak or have failed and all the others are OK. Simply replace the bad cells and your good to go again for maybe 80,000 miles or more. There is no need to replace the whole pack unless it is covered under warranty.

Battery anxiety (cost of repair) does not worry me.
 

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From the sounds of it, the battery rebuild business could be the next big thing if we see the continual increased sale of hybrids. Hopefully it will ultimately drive down the costs to rebuild the batteries as well.
As the only person in that business (at least for Honda hybrids) I can tell you that the demand isn't there yet.

That 7 year quote is from me. I'm seeing batteries die at anywhere from 60K to 300K miles with the median being around 170K. Of course, I don't see any that die before the car hits 80K miles because they are under warranty.
 

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I assume those of us in the select improved warranty states can still count on the 10 year / 150,000 coverage. :closedeyes:
 
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