Do you currently own a hybrid car?? What kind of car is it?
I currently have the opportunity to buy a 1-owner 2000 Insight with only 42k miles. It needs a new Hybrid Battery pack, presumably due to lack of use (4200mi/yr). Have you ever had to replace your battery pack?I own a 2000 Honda Insight with about 235K miles. I average 51 MPG (I'm a lead foot). It's a 5 spd and I have even autoxed it for 2 years.
nice choice on the S2k...My best friend, who lives in the San Fernando Valley, has a friend that is the original owner of a 2000 Insight, who, as of two months ago, racked up 80 some thousand miles. Keeping meticulous records, and not letting anybody else drive his Insight, He has averaged 67 mpg since new, and is still on the original battery pack. I drove one when new, but thought it a litlle too soft and wallowy in ride. I bought an S2000 instead, and get 24 city/33 hwy vs the EPA rating of 20/26. And you may have read about two guys in N.J. that drove a Ford Fusion Hybrid non-stop over 1300 miles on one tank of gas, averaging 72 mpg in a certified weekend run.
This is an interesting post about the real world value of the IMA. You find that spectacular fuel economy (50 mpg+) is available to you with special effort or conditions. But when you drive your civic hybrid in a "normal" manner, you end up at 38 to 42 MPG or about 10 to 15% more than the 35 to 37 mpg I consistently get in "normal" driving from my 09 fit. So it continues to beg the question, is IMA hybrid technology worth the extra complexity/weight/cost in order to gain a real world 10 to 15% better fuel economy?Missed this thread lol.
Own an 06 civic hybrid.
Best trip - 172 miles behind a tractor trailer @ 68 mpg
Best tank - 56 mpg over the summer mostly highway
Current tanks - 38-42 mpg
I used to pull out every trick I read but in the end the amount saved was equal to a weekly paycheck saved over just one year. I've now taken to enjoying driving which is still pretty decent in such a slow car. Once it gets going the civic can lane change pretty rapidly, minimal roll, and the instant assist at any speed is advantageous for over taking highway slow pokes.
my new favorite member :hi5:I don't get it. Why are there people on this site that rag on about 0 to 60 or MPG numbers as if those are the ONLY things important to them. Hey, if you're interested in a mileage-making hybrid, take a look at the Toyota Prius or Civic Hybrid at around the same price as a CR-Z. If you want 0-60 numbers at a similar price, go to a site featuring V6 or 4 cyl turbo gasoline powered cars. If you've got penty of money and want the ulimate green machine, check out the Tesla at $120 grand. But if you're just looking for a really good looking 21st century car that's fun to drive, you're probably on the right site.
i've never owned a Hybrid vehicle... driven a few but not extensively... i agree while they can be slow they're also not fun... if the CR-Z is as fun to drive as i expect it to be, i'll be happy... all while maintaining AT-PZEV rating...I still knock on this car because even if it is fun to drive and fairly fuel efficient then it also might be the same with just a 1.8L ICE alone.
As I mentioned in my last post there will be a couple hurdles this car will confront. The cars battery management is one of them. Can you imagine going to the track just to toss the car around for fun and when your up the car decides its time to deplete and calibrate the battery? Not so much fun right there.
Decided to expand this:
I would be open to this car but after owning a Honda hybrid for 83,000 miles so far I can say there are definite weaknesses that I doubt can be overcome. Doing a great deal of city driving currently has made me very conscious of the battery charge level. If it hits 50% car goes forced regeneration mode. Once a week it depletes itself fully to calibrate.
The very fact I have to watch my driving is becoming a turn off for me. I don't see myself moving to a point where I'll be driving mostly highway anytime soon. If it comes down to CR-Z vs regular gasser or TDI the latter have an edge because I can run the AC, turn the speakers up, keep the lights on, and all the while never worry about "omg is my battery gonna hit 50%?"....
If you have yet to experience it a hybrid trying to recharge its batteries while driving is a slow turd. Like European bus sized van stuck with a 1.2 petrol engine turd. Revving the CVT up to whine levels just to keep pace with cars to your side.
Oh it is quite the turd I can assure youi've never owned a Hybrid vehicle... driven a few but not extensively... i agree while they can be slow they're also not fun... if the CR-Z is as fun to drive as i expect it to be, i'll be happy... all while maintaining AT-PZEV rating...
has anyone stopped to think that maybe in "Sport" mode the "forced regen" is deactivated?? i mean if that is the way this vehicle is programmed what will anyone have to say about not having the electric motor whenever you want at your disposal...
also more food for thought when comparing the CR-Z to other current Hybrids... the gas engine alone has around 110hp... the HCH has 98hp or so and the new Prius has like 70 something hp from a 1.8L engine... so i think the CR-Z even if it has the "forced regen" won't be the "turd" people are saying it might be...