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what are some of the differences that you've seen in the CR-Z among the 3 main markets?? for example:

DRL LEDs
USDM - No
EDM - Yes
JDM - Yes

Back Seats
USDM - No
EDM - Yes
JDM - Yes

Panoramic Glass Roof
USDM - No
EDM - Yes
JDM - Yes

1.5L IMA Drivetrain
USDM - Yes LEA1-MF6
EDM - Yes LEA1-MF6
JDM - Yes LEA-MF6 (note: no 1 at the end :angry: )

6MT (manual transmission)
USDM - Yes
EDM - Yes
JDM - Yes

CVT (continuously variable transmission)
USDM - Yes 3.173~0.529, FD 4.20, R 5.666~2.167
EDM - No
JDM - Yes 2.526~0.421, FD 5.274, R 4.510~ 1.725

Leather
USDM - No
EDM - Yes
JDM - Yes

Red Hazard Button
USDM - No
EDM - Yes
JDM - Yes

Push Start Button
USDM - No
EDM - Yes
JDM - unconfirmed

Headlight Sprayer/Washer
USDM - No
EDM - Yes
JDM - unconfirmed

Integrated Turn Indicators
USDM - Yes
EDM - Yes
JDM - Yes

Rear (Hatch) Wiper
USDM - Yes
EDM - No
JDM - Yes

Different Choice in Navigation
USDM - Yes (1 Option)
EDM - Yes (3 Options)
JDM - Yes (? Options)

Optional Backup Camera
USDM - No
EDM - Yes
JDM - Yes

Gas Door Lock
USDM - No
EDM - Yes
JDM - unconfirmed

Power Folding Mirrors
USDM - No
EDM - Yes
JDM - unconfirmed


If you know more, post them here and i will update this post with it...
 

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The headlight sprayer/washer things are on the EDM, but not the USDM. Not sure about JDM.

With EDM getting Leather, do you think Heated seats are another feature they will get? Most if not all current Honda's with Leather automatically have heated seats.

The lack of Glass Roof and Back Seats should help the weight of the USDM model. Backseat is pointless in this little car anyway
 

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I dont know why Honda is cutting the US model so much, some things to cut costs I get but at least make them options on the higher end versions. As a long time fan of the CRZ I am just about done and going to have to find something else to buy now. There is no reason to not offer push button start or other basic luxury items on this car if you have them in the rest of the world.
 

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US gets the shaft with new cars.

I assume these cars will all still be built in Japan so I don't see why at least leather on the EX trim can't come stateside.
 

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i added a push start to my Si... wasn't hard... $10-$15 in materials including wires, relay (most of the cost), universal connectors... oh and the button (S2k) retails for like $40 or so... the hardest part was cutting into my dash... i only had to do that b/c it's not even close to an option for the coupes to add a button... the sedans have a nice place to put the button tho... on this it shouldn't be hard either... simply buy the parts ie: panel, button, wires, etc... and should be an easy install...

i'm not a huge fan of leather, but would be nice to have the option b/c it would keep the price of the non-leather down ;)

the hardest upgrade to my CR-Z is going to be the addition of the sunroof... and that's only b/c i'm going to have to cut/weld/paint... but relatively easy i suppose...
 

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Im suprised to hear so many people prefer a push button starter.. When Honda put it on the S2000 it was a novelty item, meant to represent the starter on a racecar (and as far as I know Honda was the first mainstream manufacturer to feature it on a production car); you still have to place the key into the ignition and turn it, so the push-button is actually an additional step... It's fine as a novelty feature on a "limited production sportscar," but the fact that BMW, Nissan, etc, etc are making it standard these days on things like Sedans makes no sense. That being said, I guess it kinda makes sense on the CR-Z because it is a "limited production 'sporty' car." Close enough.
 

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lol... i see your point... if it wasn't offered at all, i wouldn't want it... but since it is an option somewhere else... i want it... even with the added step, it's still simple... i mean i got so used to it in my Si that it was weird when i actually tried to start the car normally... i could also disconnect the wire on the ignition to where it would ONLY start with the button but i wanted to have a backup in case the button stopped working lol...
 

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Back in the good old days, (heh, heh), you turned the key (after you pulled the choke) and stepped on the starter. When starters were incorporated into the ignition system, it was viewed as a leap into the future. Yes, the S2000 emulated the push-start of a race car. But race cars don't have key ignitions. So let's move on into the 21st century with "finger print start", where you just touch a pad with your fingertip to start, no key required. Comng soon to your nearest dealer! :)
 

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On a positive note, all them parts we don't get is likely a direct bolt on.
As long as it's available...it can be done.
 

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Most push button start systems now use a chip built into the key and as long as you have it you get in the car, Press the break or clutch down then press start and away you go. That is what I want. As for adding it myself I am not doing that on a 24k-30k brand new car when they already have built the darn button for other markets.
 

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Not interested in most of the features. The US spec looks fine IMO, hope we'll be able to get a CR-Z without all the useless bits here in Europe as well...

* The back seats are not usefull to me in any way, they just add weight and make storage in the car more difficult.

* Sunroof I don't like. I tend to look at the road and not in the sky when at the wheel. Leaks and/or jams when the car gets old, makes the A/C work harder and adds weight where you don't need it (far away from CoG).

* DRL LEDs are a "cool" novelty item here, and every %"$%! has them retro fitted to his ugly Golf IV to maximise annoyance factor when tailgaiting. Don't want to be mixed with that crowd. Especially ugly as styled on newer Audis IMO.

* Leather seats if done right might be an interesting option, but usually the price premium in Europe is ridicoulus compared to what you get. I'd rather spend the money on a new pair of Gravati shoes, at least that's real leather and craftsmanship :). More of a status thing here really.

* Push start button: looks like it's standard here. Hope it comes without "key less entry" features because that is going to be a major pain in the neck to fix yourself once the car gets old and transponders start to fail (programming kit usually only available to dealerships).

* Headlight sprayer: well that is required by law here if you get HID beams. Makes sense, HIDs don't work when dirty. Not sure if the HID light as implemented on the CR-Z will actually be any better than the standard halogen stuff though.
 

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* The back seats are not usefull to me in any way, they just add weight and make storage in the car more difficult.

* DRL LEDs are a "cool" novelty item here, and every %"$%! has them retro fitted to his ugly Golf IV to maximise annoyance factor when tailgaiting. Don't want to be mixed with that crowd. Especially ugly as styled on newer Audis IMO.
I will GLADLY trade you and pay for shipping both ways for all of these parts... i don't care enough for the back seats to pay for them, but if someone is willing to trade me for the stock storage thingy (and seat belts lol) i'm down... and the LED headlights, i'd be willing to trade you those a soon as possible too...

like i said i'll be willing to pay for me to ship my lights to you AND pay for you to ship your lights to me... heck i'll even send mine to you first so you can install them and not have to worry about having a car without headlights... the HIDs don't need to be sent just the housing... i know it's months in advance but let me know if that's something you'd like to do :)
 

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From Honda CR-Z Specifications - Official Honda Web Site :

CR-Z EX [1]


Adding to or replacing features on the CR-Z


- Bluetooth® HandsFreeLink® with Steering Wheel-Mounted Controls [5]

- Honda Satellite-Linked Navigation System™ with Voice Recognition (Available) [6]

- High-Intensity Discharge (HID) Headlights with Auto-On/Off

- Fog Lights

- Perforated Leather-Wrapped Steering Wheel

- Aluminum Shift Knob with Leather (6MT)

- Textured Aluminum Pedals

- 360-Watt AM/FM/CD Premium Audio System with MP3/Windows Media® Audio (WMA) playback capability and 7 Speakers including Subwoofer
 

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My car due June 20th. White GT top spec car; Has virtually everything:
Leather, back seats, moonroof (a non opening sunroof, IE a window!), Hid lights inc wash, parking sensors, bluetooth, heated seats, auto lights/wipers, climate, front fogs, sat nav, folding mirrors, upgrate sound, privacy glass, etc etc. There are UK 2 lower specs. The sport that looses leather, heated seats, moonroof, Hid lights, bluetooth, fogs and auot lights/wipers. and the S (poverty spec) model that looses even more bits!
In UK you cannot specify any useful bits on lower spec cars IE Bluetooth or nav on an S or a sport. Very annoying and forces people into the top spec more expensive varient. Gnash Gnash!!!!:cursing:
 

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Very annoying and forces people into the top spec more expensive varient. Gnash Gnash!!!!:cursing:
same thing here in the US... usually with Honda they have different trims like DX, LX, EX, Si (if available)... you can't get ANY goodies on the DX or LX trims usually only available on the EX or Si trims...

since the CR-Z sounds like it will only have a Base and EX version here...
 
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