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CVT or 6-Speed?: Questions from a Prospective Owner

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So, after narrowing down my next new car purchase to a half dozen finalists, I am all but certain I will be getting a CR-Z within the next 6 months (lets hope the 2013 improvements make it to the U.S.).

Just a bit of back story on me: I've exclusively owned cars with automatic transmissions since I got my license nearly 20 years ago. Only recently have I begun driving my boyfriend's car which has a stick. Much to my surprise, I found the experience to be rather enjoyable once I got over my fear and nervousness. I still have a lot to learn, and every once in a great while I will stall the car in 1st gear, but overall I'm fairly comfortable behind the wheel of a manual transmission equipped car, which is not something I could rightfully claim even a month ago.

With that said, I am concerned about buying a new car w/ a manual and "abusing" it due to my relative inexperience with manuals. I had initially considered the CVT, but all the reviews seem to be in agreement in stating that it really saps all the fun out of the CR-Z. Is the CR-Z's manual very "forgiving" (e.g. easy to operate) for novice stick drivers like myself? Would you say the 6-speed CR-Z is appreciably quicker/more exciting to drive than it's CVT counterpart, or are most reviewers making a mountain out of a molehill?

Thanks in advance for any feedback and helping the "new guy" make a tough decision. :)
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Why ask us? Go test drive one! You can't go wrong with either.
My dealer doesn't have any manuals in stock for one, and for another, I'm still a bit too green to trust myself behind the wheel of a manual transmission equipped car I'm unfamiliar with.
Yes go test drive both. That's what I did and fell in love with the 6MT. It is the easiest manual car I've ever driven. When left in normal or econ the throttle isn't sensitive and makes driving a breeze. You will be comfortable in no time. Another thing if you're still a little nervous is it has hill assist, so you don't roll back on hills for a couple seconds.

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Plus if you stall, no one can hear you restart the engine...

It's actually the perfect car to learn manual!
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I've had a couple people laugh at me thinking I stalled when auto stop came on.

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The additional torque from the electric motor at low revs makes the CRZ less likely to stall compared to a non-hybrid. And the 2013 6MT should have more low rpm torque than the CVT.
Sticks can be fun and they can be a pain when it's your only option. I think maybe you should consider when and where you will driving the car the most. Where do you live, how is the drive, how is the traffic, etc. If your commute is 2 stop signs then a freeway for 12 miles, then 2 red lights and park, that's not a shifters dream. If you have 20 minutes of stop and go traffic, that's not fun. OTOH, if you have 10 miles of north Georgia mountain back roads getting to work, Yeah Baby.

I have a CVT and feel that I have the best of both worlds. When I want to be sporty, I go to sport mode and shift with paddle shifters. In boring drives when I'm on cruise control, I take advantage of the excellent fuel economy. When I'm stuck in traffic, I can worry about things other than holding the clutch down. The CVT is actually kinda nice to enjoy the smoothness or play with the paddles in any mode.

You won't hurt a stick and you wont short yourself with a CVT.
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You won't hurt a stick and you wont short yourself with a CVT.
Very well said!

Try a CVT, and get a good feel for the car. It is not nearly as "un-driveable" as reviews suggest. I love mine
If you can find one with a manual, even used, to test drive, then you will know for sure.

Hope you find the one you want.
There's lots to consider when choosing your vehicle's transmission. You just have to weigh the pro's and con's like anything else. Like most people's suggestion, take the test drives and it will help you decide.

Like anything else, you will learn how to drive stick and eventually and maybe sooner, it will be second nature.

I opted for the 6MT because I used to have a 240sx 5speed MT and loved it. After that car, I just got automatics and it didn't feel the same. So I told myself, my next car will be manual. Once I got my CRZ it only took me a minute to get used to driving stick again.

My reasons for getting stick:

1. Cheaper
2. I have more control with my driving
3. It's fun!
4. The likelyhood of others borrowing my car will be less. Although everybody in my family knows how to drive stick, but some of my friends don't.
5. I can make fun of people who does not know how to drive stick. :pP:

Hopefully you find some answers here and wish you the best!

Good luck!
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I want to say that the CVT does not zap the fun out of the car AT ALL (and this is coming from someone who has always preferred manuals.) I also know that, for the 2011-12s at least, the CVT is faster 0-60 because of the ability of the CVT to stay in the power band. I have driven both and I like both. The CVT offers a good mix for me, but it's ultimately up to you.
Thanks for the feedback guys, I really appreciate it. For the record, I have already test driven a CVT model and liked it quite a bit. I just didn't care for the constant high RPM drone under accelerating...I'd assume this is where the paddle shifters with their simulated shift points would come in handy.

In any case, it looks like I'm going to have to practice some more and take a manual model out for a spin sometime soon.
My reasons for getting stick:

1. Cheaper
2. I have more control with my driving
3. It's fun!
4. The likelyhood of others borrowing my car will be less. Although everybody in my family knows how to drive stick, but some of my friends don't.
5. I can make fun of people who does not know how to drive stick. :pP:

Hopefully you find some answers here and wish you the best!

Good luck!
Funny, these are more or less my reasons for wanting a manual. This will also be my first 2 seater, so no more giving rides to everyone. :thumbup:

BTW, I see we both live in Reno. I don't think I've seen your CR-Z around. They're pretty rare around here...I only recall seeing a grey one and a blue one. I'll have to keep my eye out for your ride. I've wanted to see one in black in person for a while now. Nice choice.
I have the CVT EX. Paddle shifters let me play manual when I want to, but I don't have to deal with it in traffic.
Everyone should drive and own a MT or two and know how to drive one. My vote in this case is to go for the MT.. I remember buying my Son's Civic SI and having to drive it home for him back in 1996 or so.. Immediately took him for a couple of rides, a bit of instruction and he was off and running in a week or so. No big deal. Starting out and if in a hilly area, the parking break is your friend until you get the hang of it.

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Funny, these are more or less my reasons for wanting a manual. This will also be my first 2 seater, so no more giving rides to everyone. :thumbup:

BTW, I see we both live in Reno. I don't think I've seen your CR-Z around. They're pretty rare around here...I only recall seeing a grey one and a blue one. I'll have to keep my eye out for your ride. I've wanted to see one in black in person for a while now. Nice choice.
Yeah! I agree with the 2 seater. No more giving rides to people and "we can't take my car, there's too many of us!"

I got mine the beginning of the month. I have seen a few here. First one was a North Shore Blue, then a Crystal Black Pearl, then a Storm Silver, and finally a Milano Red. I've posted on the "Was that you?" section but no response.

Well there's a couple of CRZ's in town. Lithia Chrysler on Mill street has a 2011 North Shore Blue for $17800 EX 6MT with only 1878 miles. Bill Pearce Honda has 2, one MT and the other CVT.

We could meet sometime if you want to see my car. Let me know.
6mt !!!! I learned to drive stick in my z and first time I took off fine :) learned perfectly on a day and normal an Econ are super forgiving sport not so much as it revs faster and higher I feel also the car tells you when to shift its like a personal driving teacher after a while tho u get the feel for it and shifting becomes like breathing ^_^ I would test drive both if you can don't worry about stallin or w/e a good guideline for 1st is don't go past 2rpm that helped me and ever since I don't stall in first again :) I love my 6mt even tho I have crappy arthritis knees I wouldn't trade lol
Starting out and if in a hilly area, the parking brake is your friend until you get the hang of it.
The CRZ 6MT has a hill holder feature that works quite well for launching on an incline.
So, after narrowing down my next new car purchase to a half dozen finalists, I am all but certain I will be getting a CR-Z within the next 6 months (lets hope the 2013 improvements make it to the U.S.).

Just a bit of back story on me: I've exclusively owned cars with automatic transmissions since I got my license nearly 20 years ago. Only recently have I begun driving my boyfriend's car which has a stick. Much to my surprise, I found the experience to be rather enjoyable once I got over my fear and nervousness. I still have a lot to learn, and every once in a great while I will stall the car in 1st gear, but overall I'm fairly comfortable behind the wheel of a manual transmission equipped car, which is not something I could rightfully claim even a month ago.

With that said, I am concerned about buying a new car w/ a manual and "abusing" it due to my relative inexperience with manuals. I had initially considered the CVT, but all the reviews seem to be in agreement in stating that it really saps all the fun out of the CR-Z. Is the CR-Z's manual very "forgiving" (e.g. easy to operate) for novice stick drivers like myself?
I've owned and driven stick shifts most of my life (age 67) and can say wihout a doubt that Honda in general makes some of the smoothest manual trasmissions on the road and the CRZ is no exception. We've owned an Accord and Fit as well and they all have very forgiving clutches.
Its the first manual hybrid in the world!!! I have the manual edition and I recommend the 6 speed manual!
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