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Was looking through auctions for random CR-Z parts and stumbled upon the following:
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Interestingly enough - it has an AV plug and an additional USB... I am thinking about making a wasteful decision and purchasing this just to have it and mess around with giving myself extra functionality. I do have an aftermarket headunit that is pretty open to weird modifications so getting use out of that AV plug is not far from reality.

And I did look up some keywords for more information on this but maybe I didn't do enough looking.
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I don't think i ever saw the "video input" but my 2016 has an HDMI input, and 2 USB -A ports.

Is that RCA plugs?
I don't think i ever saw the "video input" but my 2016 has an HDMI input, and 2 USB -A ports.

Is that RCA plugs?
Yes, RCA and some other plug I can't say I'm familiar with. Though I think I've seen that plug's adaptor sold in another auction so I might be able to get info on that if needed. The first image I posted shows the plug going to a USB output
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I don't think i ever saw the "video input" but my 2016 has an HDMI input, and 2 USB -A ports.

Is that RCA plugs?
Do you happen to have a picture of where your HDMI + 2 USB plugs are located? To the left of the steering wheel just above the fusebox?
Neat, Its odd how many
Do you happen to have a picture of where your HDMI + 2 USB plugs are located? To the left of the steering wheel just above the fusebox?
They are in the same place as the plugs on that part. (not my photo) its interesting how many dead ends they did with the ICE in this car.
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Interesting... yeah I can't pass this opportunity up im definitely going to get this item then. If I can't use it then hey at least I'll be able to sleep at night knowing it 😆
What other cool little features does your '16 have? Is that the model with the e-parking brake?
U.S. 2016 has electric parking brake, push button start and lane watch cameras in the wing mirrors. May even have leather seats, depending on trim level.
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If I had to guess, that's an interface for a mini disc player.
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U.S. 2016 has electric parking brake, push button start and lane watch cameras in the wing mirrors. May even have leather seats, depending on trim level.
Yeah the 2016 had the camera on the passenger mirror. Finding an aftermarket head unit that will retain that feature has been a pain in the ass.

The 16 also has bigger brake rotors int he front, Keyless entry (but no auto locking like other Honda cars), and the replacement keys are a whopping $500 USD from Honda.

The Electric parking break is neat! If you are in gear and just tap the gas pedal with your seatbelt on, it will auto disengage. I use it all the time in drive through and when setting off.
Yeah the 2016 had the camera on the passenger mirror. Finding an aftermarket head unit that will retain that feature has been a pain in the ass.

The 16 also has bigger brake rotors in the front, Keyless entry (but no auto locking like other Honda cars), and the replacement keys are a whopping $500 USD from Honda.

The Electric parking break is neat! If you are in gear and just tap the gas pedal with your seatbelt on, it will auto disengage. I use it all the time in drive through and when setting off.
Yeah so far retaining factory features when moving to an aftermarket headunit has been a real pain in the butt. The CR-Z is all over the place feature-wise so unfortunately solutions have not been easy to find. I've basically just been looking up keywords until I find a lead of some sort for the adaptors and modifications I've been doing.

I'm assuming you personally prefer to route the camera display to the mirror? Supposedly certain base models have the reverse mirror camera operate independently to an extent - I wonder if taking parts from one of those models would allow you to retain your preference and still switch to an aftermarket HU. The only problem I'd think of is the lane watch cameras - perhaps something similar to this (or at least the concept of it) would function. Adaptors would definitely be needed.

And yeah sounds like the electronic parking brake is pretty neat - and it actually looks like there are a bunch of cheaper used proximity fobs on the Japanese auction sites I've been browsing too. I don't know enough to say if it's possible to use one of those and just reprogram it but figured I'd mention it.
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Larger rear brakes too. 11.1" front and rear.
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Yeah so far retaining factory features when moving to an aftermarket headunit has been a real pain in the butt. The CR-Z is all over the place feature-wise so unfortunately solutions have not been easy to find. I've basically just been looking up keywords until I find a lead of some sort for the adaptors and modifications I've been doing.
The Guy who is behind Teyes says I can retain that feature, with the factory camera for lane watch, but I would need to use there backup camera. Not a huge deal, just haven't gotten a confirmation that if it doesn't work they will let me return it all.

I'm assuming you personally prefer to route the camera display to the mirror? Supposedly certain base models have the reverse mirror camera operate independently to an extent - I wonder if taking parts from one of those models would allow you to retain your preference and still switch to an aftermarket HU. The only problem I'd think of is the lane watch cameras - perhaps something similar to this (or at least the concept of it) would function. Adaptors would definitely be needed.
I actually like the the factory integration, with the curving backup lines and the dashed lines showing the spacing. And TBH I really would rather use the bugger screen rather than the rearview mirror.
I just really want something with more than iPod support.

I have been driving my wife's 2020 Fit and love the android auto setup. having something even close to that in the CRZ would be a dream come true.
If I can get Teyes to agree to do a refund return i will pick one up in the next few months.

And yeah sounds like the electronic parking brake is pretty neat - and it actually looks like there are a bunch of cheaper used proximity fobs on the Japanese auction sites I've been browsing too. I don't know enough to say if it's possible to use one of those and just reprogram it but figured I'd mention it.
I did a deep dive into the chip used, found that it was the same chip a few years of the Honda Acord. The Accord Keyfob was like $150. But just because it used the same chip does not mean it would work.

I don't have the means to program the key myself otherwise I would give it a try. It seems like a waste to pay a locksmith to program it for it to just fail.

I haven't looked at the any listing from Japan. I always assumed that the systems were not the same due to NA regulations. I will start poking around.
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The Guy who is behind Teyes says I can retain that feature, with the factory camera for lane watch, but I would need to use there backup camera. Not a huge deal, just haven't gotten a confirmation that if it doesn't work they will let me return it all.


I actually like the the factory integration, with the curving backup lines and the dashed lines showing the spacing. And TBH I really would rather use the bugger screen rather than the rearview mirror.
I just really want something with more than iPod support.

I have been driving my wife's 2020 Fit and love the android auto setup. having something even close to that in the CRZ would be a dream come true.
If I can get Teyes to agree to do a refund return i will pick one up in the next few months.



I did a deep dive into the chip used, found that it was the same chip a few years of the Honda Acord. The Accord Keyfob was like $150. But just because it used the same chip does not mean it would work.

I don't have the means to program the key myself otherwise I would give it a try. It seems like a waste to pay a locksmith to program it for it to just fail.

I haven't looked at the any listing from Japan. I always assumed that the systems were not the same due to NA regulations. I will start poking around.
Well this is perfect - I have a Teyes CC3! It's been my main focus the last few months since I got it. I can do some extra digging into those functions for you, my other posts on here have actually been only really about the Teyes unit and what I've had to do with it. Ask away if you have any questions! It is truly an incredible unit - I will say though it does have some finnicky little bits here and there.

  • I can't say anything about the lane watch cameras but if you happen to have an image of the plug that leads to your headunit I can look into it further.
  • The reverse camera would likely require the Teyes one because of the plug compatibility. Teyes uses a video input and not whatever OEM might be.
  • As far as I'm aware, the dynamic reverse lines SHOULD work still. I cannot speak on that because I unfortunately do not have a model that comes with that stock and thus no support.
  • The CC3 is actually really only geared towards NAV models like yours so unlike me, you will likely have as close to PNP as possible.
  • If you get a Teyes, GET. A. SIM. CARD. What a difference it makes. The unit doesn't require a personal hotspot if you do - and all you have to do is modify the APN settings which is already documented on here. I can provide the info for that if it ever becomes of interest to you.
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Well this is perfect - I have a Teyes CC3! It's been my main focus the last few months since I got it. I can do some extra digging into those functions for you, my other posts on here have actually been only really about the Teyes unit and what I've had to do with it. Ask away if you have any questions! It is truly an incredible unit - I will say though it does have some finnicky little bits here and there.

  • I can't say anything about the lane watch cameras but if you happen to have an image of the plug that leads to your headunit I can look into it further.
  • The reverse camera would likely require the Teyes one because of the plug compatibility. Teyes uses a video input and not whatever OEM might be.
  • As far as I'm aware, the dynamic reverse lines SHOULD work still. I cannot speak on that because I unfortunately do not have a model that comes with that stock and thus no support.
  • The CC3 is actually really only geared towards NAV models like yours so unlike me, you will likely have as close to PNP as possible.
  • If you get a Teyes, GET. A. SIM. CARD. What a difference it makes. The unit doesn't require a personal hotspot if you do - and all you have to do is modify the APN settings which is already documented on here. I can provide the info for that if it ever becomes of interest to you.
I have yet to pull out the radio. This summer I was planning on replacing the gauge cluster lenes as the previous owner stripped off the anti-glare coating. So it will be a while before I dive into that.

Just for kicks I wanted to look up the radio. And just my luck, the OEM radio is on sale, WOW...
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I mean it is 1K off right now, HAHAHA
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I have yet to pull out the radio. This summer I was planning on replacing the gauge cluster lenes as the previous owner stripped off the anti-glare coating. So it will be a while before I dive into that.

Just for kicks I wanted to look up the radio. And just my luck, the OEM radio is on sale, WOW...
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I mean it is 1K off right now, HAHAHA
Wow what a steal - might just have to get one myself 😆

I can take a look online to see what the back of the nav units look like, there's probably some pinout diagram laying around somewhere I can find

EDIT: Turns out I've already referenced this page before, just for the non-nav units. I see nothing regarding lane watch so I'm going to assume that the video input signal for those are sent to a different unit which then does some funky stuff with it and sends that over to the headunit.

And here's one of the keys I mentioned. $15 give or take for the item, plus then shipping and extra fees is definitely less than $500 but I still get not wanting to risk it
@tikeybun had a teyes or Seicane unit in his 2016 - I think a seicane. It still worked with the lanewatch camera when you changed lanes, but not with the button on the turn signal stalk.
@tikeybun had a teyes or Seicane unit in his 2016 - I think a seicane. It still worked with the lanewatch camera when you changed lanes, but not with the button on the turn signal stalk.
Good to know - given how similar the two systems are that makes me lean towards likely functionality on the Teyes then… it also made me realize that I could probably find more info on the Teyes by searching for the Seicane unit’s specifications as well! Thanks
If I had to guess, that's an interface for a mini disc player.
I definitely agree - I see that the JDM navigation units are different than USDM and likely don’t have a cd reader. That makes total sense now - I’m wondering now if the output is going to be proprietary to just Japanese units. Finding an adapter will be fun 😬
I now think that odd port is an MDI interface. It could go to a mini disc but it seems to support many different devices when used with the correct adapter cable.
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Part received today. Now that I can actually see what the plugs look like, I have some extra research to do. Excuse the garbage quality photo.
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I now think that odd port is an MDI interface. It could go to a mini disc but it seems to support many different devices when used with the correct adapter cable.
This is definitely an MDI port. Specifically, a VW MDI port. Excellent info - would likely have never figured that out myself!


The below image is my current hell however.
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Simple answer: This is not going to be easy. Both plugs are hard to get info on but I am creeping towards SOMETHING of use at least. The above image depicts a plug which I can say with 99% certainty is proprietary to just JDM nav units. Plug 6 in this posting.

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I did find something. Information about the 26-pin connector. It's not a solution but it's something. (at the very bottom)
GT17H-26DP-DS is the exact part number for the plug im going to end up obtaining. How I will use this plug without a pinout I don't know yet but it's a start.

The only hitch is that I am still having problems locating the harness side plug for the RCA ports. All useful information on "M35702" has been wiped off the face of the earth minus images of the assembly. I have searched far and wide for a 6-pin Honda/Mitsubishi/VW plug and my best ASSUMPTION is that this is not handled by a separate cable and instead it is part of a much larger harness. That doesn't restrict my ability to use it yet - I will likely source the plug and fiddle with it until I get a desired result.

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Yeah this was to be expected, this appears to be part of a much larger harness (Edit: Wrong). Or at least I can assume. The good news is that I already have the parts yard ready to notify me as soon as they obtain a 2006-2011 civic (throttle body mod) so I can inspect the connection when the time comes.

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The plug for the MDI port is going to be fully custom-made, as nobody manufactures or has remaining stock of GT17H-26DP-DS it seems. I have identified which pins are used for the USB connection. Updates will still be posted with progress.

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Got bored enough to set aside time to create a plug for the USB part of the MDI port. Ordered + Awaiting video adaptor. Beginning to think it would have just been best to spend my time looking for plugs that I'd just transplant into the under-dash unit but hey too late now 🤷‍♂️
For those curious, here's the pinout thus far.

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Just received the video adaptor, and unfortunately the plug depicted above is not pinned for use with said adaptor. I did attempt to take apart the adaptor and re-pin it but at this point I've decided my best option is to simply utilize the dash unit as a base to work upon, instead of developing off of what was originally there. At least I got the USB to work! I'll likely leave this plug alone for now, and somehow develop a plug for myself to utilize the RCA ports that came with this unit. That one will be pretty simple. Just gotta source a 6-pin male plug.

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Junkyard run was semi-unsuccessful, seems like this plug is super rare. At least I know now that this plug is not it.
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