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Hello guys this is Hugo, this is my first post, and I need your help.
A few months ago I got a CRZ 2012 (automatic transmission), and I was in love with this fantastic car.
Saturday in the afternoon I turned on my car (like I do every day), and I started driving for a while. Then I get to a ramp which I drive down as I do daily and when I joined the main street my car was not accelerating (speeding up). I'll say that I was not even moving, after that, I checked my wheels to see if something was blocking them because I heard like something was trapped. I couldn't find what was wrong; moreover, I checked the transmission fluid and It was fine (the oil and the capacity that my car needs), with no burning smell or something.
Since that day my car is not moving even if I put it into gear, it doesn't move forward or backward, and It's making the noise I'll show you in the YouTube video (at the end of the post).
Does anybody know why that happened suddenly? My car was working perfectly, with no weird noise and perfect acceleration. There was no previous behavior. This just happened suddenly. Also, my car does not have any check lights or something, it turns on perfectly fine. The only difference is the weird noise that it makes.
Also, It makes the gear changes perfectly, I put a scanner and It showed that the signals of the gears changes were sending perfectly.
I will be happy if you give me your thought or what you think it can be.
Thanks for your helps guys; God bless you.

YouTube video showing the noise.
 

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Sounds like a mechanical failure inside the transmission. If it's a mechanical failure no code will be thrown. And since it's the transmission making this noise it's likely suffered a severe failure, maybe even a snapped belt. Might want to get it diagnosed but it seems like it's gonna be expensive. :(
 

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Sounds like a mechanical failure inside the transmission. If it's a mechanical failure no code will be thrown. And since it's the transmission making this noise it's likely suffered a severe failure, maybe even a snapped belt. Might want to get it diagnosed but it seems like it's gonna be expensive. :(
Thanks for your reply SkittyDoogle. Do you think a severe failure can happen with no previous behavior? As I said before, there was no problem before that. That's why I thought It was something simpler.
I'm gonna try to find a mechanic or a technician because nobody wants to try to fix it, It's not that common to see hybrid cars in my city. Any advice on where I have to guide the mechanical? Torque Converter or something?
 

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What about checking for a broken halfshaft?
Thanks for your reply ryanthegreat1. I think It may be my problem because now you brought it up, I remember I was turning right to the main street when It happened. I mean I turned right, and I tried to accelerate, so It may be I pushed too much the accelerator pedal (I don't think so. Maybe It was about to break) when I was turning right and unfortunately broke a half shaft.
I'll check it tomorrow, thank you so much.
 

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Do you think a severe failure can happen with no previous behavior? As I said before, there was no problem before that.
the one in my car failed suddenly with no warning. It was making the same noises, and it was completely destroyed on the inside.
I would suggest to drain the CVT fluid and examine for chunks of metal - not even just glitter, but you'll see whole chunks of paper-thin metal in the fluid.

As far as replacing the transmission, the fact that it is a hybrid plays very little in the replacement - there's a couple of crucial steps involving the safety lockout on the hybrid battery and then the main hybrid connector above the transmission.
 

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the one in my car failed suddenly with no warning. It was making the same noises, and it was completely destroyed on the inside.
I would suggest to drain the CVT fluid and examine for chunks of metal - not even just glitter, but you'll see whole chunks of paper-thin metal in the fluid.

As far as replacing the transmission, the fact that it is a hybrid plays very little in the replacement - there's a couple of crucial steps involving the safety lockout on the hybrid battery and then the main hybrid connector above the transmission.
It’s kinda sad hearing that man… I was looking for buying a transmission but It’s around $800 - $1,000 (And I also have to pay for the delivery to my country). Do you think It's worth to buy a transmission? Or Should I sell it?😞
 

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Just watched the video. My vote has changed to failed transmission. A broken halfshaft will flop around and make banging sounds.
Your thought was my last hope… Sadly, as you say guys, It's the transmission. As I said before I was looking for buying a transmission but It’s around $800 - $1,000 (And I also have to pay for the delivery to my country). Do you think It's worth to buy a transmission? Or Should I sell it?😞
 

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Depending on the shops available to you and how badly it is damaged, it might be possible to have it rebuilt, but as the others mentioned it is usually a replacement. Whether it is worth it to you or not, that is a very personal decision and will depend on what replacement vehicles are available and what they will cost and of course your available budget.

It may take some searching but there maybe used transmissions available, but usually in other countries the CVT version is less available than the 6 speeds.
 

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That sucks man. CVTs aren't so durable and as a CVT owner we should be aware of what could happen to these transmissions sooner or later.

You live in El Salvador, right? 800 bucks doesn't sound extremely expensive. Do a research about your car estimated resale value and then decide if it is still worth it. It should not exceed the 30% of your estimated resale value, if that is the case then you should consider selling it.

You can also take the opportunity to do a K swap. Here in Guatemala the swap isn't that expensive (Around $2500-$3500). You resolve the problem of the transmission and highly increase your performance at the same time.
 

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Depending on the shops available to you and how badly it is damaged, it might be possible to have it rebuilt, but as the others mentioned it is usually a replacement. Whether it is worth it to you or not, that is a very personal decision and will depend on what replacement vehicles are available and what they will cost and of course your available budget.

It may take some searching but there maybe used transmissions available, but usually in other countries the CVT version is less available than the 6 speeds.
based on the teardown I did on the blown CVT, there is no rebuilding it. when the belts fail, the shards go through the entire transmission - as in "inside sealed bearings" level of "through the entire transmission"
It’s kinda sad hearing that man… I was looking for buying a transmission but It’s around $800 - $1,000 (And I also have to pay for the delivery to my country). Do you think It's worth to buy a transmission? Or Should I sell it?😞
the car is worth very little with a blown transmission - would you be able to get a car for the same cost that the transmission replacement would be?
 

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If you have the transmission "rebuilt"(might be replacing everything but the case) or replaced (with new or used) you will need to at minimum replace the filter that is part of the transmission cooling at the back of the radiator and have that blown out (Cleaned and checked for damage), or you might have to replace the radiator (or bypass the transmission cooler portion of the radiator and add a standalone transmission cooler). Just something to add to the cost analysis.
 

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I had 3 CVT's fail spontaneously on my old 11. Got no warning at all. They just imploded on me while driving. Wasn't even sending it each time. Seems like these CVT's just like to exit the chat whenever they please with no warning. Each time one of mine blew I could hear a high pitch sound from the transmission case.
 

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And there are other members that have never had an issue with a CVT transmission. All you can do is extra changes of the filter and fluid and understand the CVT is weaker than a 6 speed, and may not hold up well to added stresses like driving it hard or forced induction or many of the other modifications that are made to the vehicle either individually or together in the pursuit of more power. Damage and wear accumulates, it may not fail when you are sending it as you say, but it can happen later.

In the Ops case as it was a used vehicle we will never know how the previous owners(s) treated it or maintained it. At this point, all we know is it is broken, and the OP is without wheels to drive. He needs to find a solution to repairing it and get it back on the road, or dump it and get another vehicle. It would be a very hard decision for me if I lost my Speed Bump. He needs solutions. Anything can fail at any time, with warning signs or not. When something happens, you have to pick a solution and move on.

Losing a vehicle or having one that is not drivable due to a failure is a very expensive situation both in money and emotions.

I hope the OP gets back on the road quickly with as little cost as possible.

I had 3 CVT's fail spontaneously on my old 11. Got no warning at all. They just imploded on me while driving. Wasn't even sending it each time. Seems like these CVT's just like to exit the chat whenever they please with no warning. Each time one of mine blew I could hear a high pitch sound from the transmission case.
 

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I'm gonna try to find a mechanic or a technician because nobody wants to try to fix it, It's not that common to see hybrid cars in my city. Any advice on where I have to guide the mechanical? Torque Converter or something?
The fact it is a hybrid is irrelevant. You need a mechanic or transmission specialist familiar with CVTs. But most in the same situation just get a whole replacement transmission, new or used.

Read the rest of this thread and other similar ones.
 

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I'm gonna try to find a mechanic or a technician because nobody wants to try to fix it, It's not that common to see hybrid cars in my city. Any advice on where I have to guide the mechanical? Torque Converter or something?
These CVT's have a wet clutch. There is no torque converter like a geared auto trans has. If the CVT is completely hosed you can get a used low millage replacement for dumb cheap. The last one @96firephoenix replaced in his was less then $400 with decent millage.
 

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He is not in the US neither is the OP. You have no idea of availability or cost where he is or what labor to do the work costs, if he does not have the skills or equipment to do it himself.


These CVT's have a wet clutch. There is no torque converter like a geared auto trans has. If the CVT is completely hosed you can get a used low millage replacement for dumb cheap. The last one @96firephoenix replaced in his was less then $400 with decent millage.
 
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