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Went to my Honda dealer on Friday morning. The sales guy said they would not get them in until the end of the month, they didn't even have any sales brochure or nothing either. I went home and four hours latter he called and said they just got one in. It was a base automatic. I didn't even bother because of the difference between the auto and manual as far as power goes and I didn't want to become tainted LOL! I told him to give me a ring when a manual comes in.
 

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I thought we could specify XM/Sirius as an option on this car? (Sirius and XM merged right?)

We have XM (now Sirius) on our '05 TSX and '97 M3, I definitely want it on the CR-Z.
Hope this is available...
yes XM/Sirius merged to what is now "Sirius XM" but XM kinda coined the initials for satellite radio so when talking about it they just say "XM" instead of the whole thing or just Sirius...

sadly, it's NOT available even as an upgrade :(

normally it would say on the HU (head unit) "XM Ready" if it was even capable of it... or at the very least have an XM button on the radio itself but nothing on there says XM and according to the sales guy it's the same Navi unit offered in Fit is the same one offered on this car and they don't offer it on that car at all either...

this news alone is making me lean towards getting an EX non-navi and just buying an aftermarket HU even tho i prefer OEM parts... this one is just lacking a few features i really like...
Went to my Honda dealer on Friday morning. The sales guy said they would not get them in until the end of the month, they didn't even have any sales brochure or nothing either. I went home and four hours latter he called and said they just got one in. It was a base automatic. I didn't even bother because of the difference between the auto and manual as far as power goes and I didn't want to become tainted LOL! I told him to give me a ring when a manual comes in.
lol, sounds EXACTLY like the local dealer by my house...

i wanted to see and drive the car so bad that i didn't care if it was auto haha... and i wasn't disappointed either... although i wouldn't buy the auto version, it still has its pep and moved when i wanted it to... especially in "Sport"... for my full "review" check out this thread http://www.crzforum.com/forum/u-s/676-cr-z-hits-showrooms-august-3.html#post7060
 

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I thought we could specify XM/Sirius as an option on this car? (Sirius and XM merged right?)

We have XM (now Sirius) on our '05 TSX and '97 M3, I definitely want it on the CR-Z.
Hope this is available...
Mine has XM. It's the trial package right now (I think the dealer has to activate some other equipment). So, it's got to be an option. IDK though.
 

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i'd really love it if it came with XM but i've personally sat in both models and i don't recall, and i looked, seeing an XM button... and i'm not saying you're lying or the salesguy knows all, but he said it's not available even on the navi model...

Chris, can you confirm this with a picture of the radio playing an XM channel on display??
 

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Believe me, I don't take offense to alot lol. And the dealer really didn't know anything. Had been there 1 month, and I had to point out even basic car things to him. Luckily my paperwork was handled by someone who had been there a while lol. And I honestly think this might be a dealer item specific to my dealer, because to get XM, I have to hit the Aux button. IDK though

Radio Display


XM Antenna


Dash Layout
 

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hitting the Aux button might explain why the "USB" sign is showing on the radio... unless you have something plugged up on the USB...

but if i'm right, it might just be a dealer add-on like you said that plugs via the USB port which is not the same as coming XM-Ready or with XM installed...

do you have a separate device to change the station or can you do it straight from the radio/steering mounted controls?? btw, that antenna looks huge...
 

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Awesome - thanks for confirming the XM capability, and for pix!

WTH on the XM antenna... I thought the sharkfin was for satellite radio/XM/Sirius??
on the Civic the nub-thingy was for the GPS and the antennas for both XM and FM/AM were mounted on the rear glass... in this case since his XM "seems" to be dealer installed, the sharkfin looks to be the antenna for FM/AM and/or Navi...
 

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Yeah, I have no honest idea what the "shark fin" is for. A mechanic friend of mine said it was for satellites, so I'm assuming sat-nav, which I don't have lol. Oh, and I do have my IPod plugged into my radio through the factory USB port. Which is why that symbol is showing up

BTW, if anyone wants any other pics, let me know
 

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Thanks Bizzybear and Chris for clearing up the sharkfin antenna is for AM/FM/Navi
I guess since I'll be getting my windows tinted, the add-on xm antenna won't be too noticeable from the outside.


I did a short highway test drive earlier. Wind/road noise were not too bad.
Also thought the stereo was decent. Could use some more midrange, and the subwoofer isn't that impressive. The bluetooth was usable but not optimal.
USB stereo using a 1GB thumbdrive was cool, liked that.
 

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We understand the CVT automatic is better gas mileage than the manual shift for the 6-speed.
Martha, even though the CVT is "rated" to get higher mileage, real-world driving might prove otherwise... with a manual car you have more control over the use of the engine/gearing... with the CVT the car will keep the rpms low and consistent... with the manual car you can shift at a lower rpm and as long as YOU'RE consistent, you should get better results than with a CVT... manual also helps if you're in an area with a lot of hills b/c you can just leave it in the same gear instead of the car downshifting to maintain speed...

and i'm not sure how accurate this information is, but i read somewhere on here that the 6MT was tested in 5th gear and not 6th...

hope that helps :)
 

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Got to test drive an LX 6 Speed Saturday at my local dealership (Northern Virginia area). Guy also said he'd sold a CVT w/ NAVI earlier in the day (sooooo glad it wasn't the other way around).

Annoyingly, the salesman insisted on coming along for the test drive, (I'd even brought my mother along to try and deflect him, but it didn't work). And he stuck me on the *worst* test drive route ever. Up about 3 miles of a straight 3-lane divided highway with traffic lights and moderately heavy traffic (I hit 60, but couldn't didn't manage any full bore acceleration or twisty handling), through a clover-leaf interchange -which, I should add, was being paved so it was currently stripped down and really rough in prep for a new layer of asphalt- and then back to the dealer.

Overall impressions:
Cons:
- Rear visibility, especially looking over the driver's left shoulder (as if moving for an overtake) was literally non-existent for me (~5'9").
- I couldn't find a good driving position (admittedly, I didn't have a whole lot of time with the car). I settled on putting the seat as low as possible, which meant I could not see the front of the car. I couldn't even see the hood of the car at all. It's very unnerving driving like that. Incidentally, I couldn't get the steering wheel high enough for my liking (even with the seat at it's lowest position, which certainly contributed to the lack of frontal visibility). Does anyone know if the wheel telescopes in addition to tilting? or is it a Tilt only?
- I thought the pods on either side of the steering wheel (with the Heater controls and Sport button), were actually separated from the dash a little (with a space behind), but I see now that they're actually molded right into the dash. I was a little disappointed by this, but I when I got home and looked at some of the photos again, I realized that's how it has always been and I just didn't notice.
- Rear visibility (straight out of the back) isn't great, but it's not so bad. I didn't find the line through the middle to be that annoying. All in all though, the car does feel very closed in, but again I'm used to driving Sedans with back seats, big rear windows and, crucially, rear doors. Which brings me to another thing...
- The doors are *massive,* as in, very long. I pulled up next to another car after the drive leaving a not-insignificant amount of space and could barely get out. I realize this is likely due to it being a four-seater over seas (need the long doors for rear seat access), but a) the seats are useless anyway, and b) even though it's a small car I'm *still* going to have to be careful where I park if I want to be able to get out!

Now that that's out of the way...
Pros:
- Styling. No, I don't particularly like it's somewhat bulbous nose or it's Renault Megane-esque swollen backside, BUT, it's a brilliant looking car. There are so few two-seater fastbacks out there that it really does stand out, and it really does look like *nothing* else on the road (apart from the CRX and the 1st gen insight, obviously). It looks much better in person as well. And because that liftgate is so flat, I bet it has a pretty usable trunk (although I didn't test it much). The wheels (I assume mine was fitted with the standard 16" alloys, but I didn't ask) look really good too.
- Noise. I can't say I noticed much, but I *think* that this is probably the quietest Honda I've ever been in. Apart from a very nice engine rumble. Again, I didn't really get a chance to test it since I was hemmed in by traffic, stoplights and an annoying salesperson, but what little I did hear sounded nice.
- Dashboard. Quite possibly the coolest thing since the iPhone. (If you like that sort of thing, which I happen to).
- Drivetrain. The gearbox is very nice. I thought the 5-speed in my Civic was nice (knackered, but nice), until I felt this. I've never actually driven a proper short-throw six speed before, but I liked it. It took a bit of getting used to, but I'd definitely get to enjoy it.
- Radio. Mine didn't have the Nav (and I'm glad of that!). I liked the radio. Little things like, for instance, tune buttons rather than a tuning knob. Knobs were great when you had a needle that moved left and right, but with digital tuners, they're just useless, especially in cars where one slight bump can move you from Classic rock to Classical (or vice versa, depending on your tastes). Also the buttons were big, and looked easy to hit with gloves on. Not the most pertinent information in august, but come February, it's the little things that matter. My only complaint would be that the controls are a little far away from the driver, but that's because I'd forgotten it had steering wheel mounted controls until I got back.

Meh:
- I didn't really get any chance to test out the handling or acceleration unfortunately. I did poke around with the driving modes, but when you're cruising at 45mph in heavy traffic, there's not much difference between Sport, Normal and Econ. I did notice that in Econ it felt like I was driving with a very heavy weight in the car, and in Sport the steering was a bit heavier, but that's about it.
- The brakes seemed very sharp to me. I'm used to a bit more pedal travel on the cars I drive regularly, but this is just something that you get used to and is a bit jarring when I drive any other car.
- The car felt closed in. I suppose this a fairly big DUUUH, since it's supposed to be. It's a small, two-seat hatchback, however, it was very odd for someone used to sedans.

Final Thoughts:
The car is much different from anything I've had the opportunity to drive, or even ride in before. I'm not used to such a low driving position, or a short throw shifter, or no back seats. I feel like much of the negative vibes I got from the car were not because it was bad, but rather because it was unfamiliar. I'm very much looking forward to another, much longer test drive, because then I'll get to know the car and discover it's true nature, which I suspect will be very good fun.

Also, I apologize for numerous typographical errors I've probably made in this post, I've got work in the morning and I can't be bothered to proofread it tonight.
 
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