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Hello everyone,

I found a Z for sale that checks every box of what I want for sale (white, ex, cvt, backup cam, etc.). Problem is Cargurus says the ad for it has been up for 200 days, meaning it's probably been sitting for a while. From what I understand they need to be driven for 30 minutes once a month and not sit for more than 4(?).

My question is if its even worth looking at, not sure how much I can trust a used car dealer to maintain a 30 min drive once a month.

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It was not driven. Not sure if worth it but that is a negotiating ploy if you are interested. It may have gotten a bunch of test drives? Have it checked by a Honda dealer.
 

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Since it is a 2013 + no one knows for sure but loss of battery capacity or other IMA issues. Potential IMA fan or dc to dc converter issues. Definitely under hood battery issues. But if you are really interested in it and are willing to take a chance then you need to have it fully evaluated by a Honda dealer not associated with the car or the sale , an independent evaluation. Talk them into an extended warranty to cover the IMA system? The price better be fantastic to cover the risk you are taking.

If it were me and it was going to be my only car I would look for one that has not been sitting but I bought mine brand new and I take care of it.

No one can tell you what issues it will have. The probability it will have more issues than one that is driven is higher. If it was not an issue to let them sit then Honda would not have put the sticker under the hood or the notes in the owners manual.

Your money your choice your chances.

What problems could I expect to run into with it?
 

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It depends on what you find on the test drive (and mileage/price.) I wouldn't worry if it was sitting for a long time, but less than a year, but I'd ask for a long test drive and inspection (a day's worth of driving and checking it out.) If they don't want you to have it for a day, walk away.
 

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the 2011 and 2012 have Ni-MH batteries. These batteries drain on their own very quickly, so if it has been sitting for nearly 7 months without being driven, the battery may have suffered. It's not so much of an issue on 2013 and newer CR-Zs
 

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My car sat for 3 months before and my IMA battery was fine, I did take out the engine battery and kept that on a trickle charger.

Currently my car has been sitting for 2 months without starting and no trickle charger (engine battery is disconnected and it is a Optima Yellow top) , I was waiting for some custom parts to be made. I will be putting it back together tomorrow, ill let you know how it goes.

But I'm not worried.

As a buyer, sure, if I were you, I would say hey if this car has been sitting for 200 or so days that can damage the IMA battery, so I need you to come down on the price. If its been sitting for 200 days, no one wants it at that price point anyway, you have control of the sale. Get as much of a discount as you can.
 

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Owners manual and sticker under hood says drive car 30 minutes a month specifically for the IMA battery. To be honest you do not know if not running it has affected your IMA system. Why would Honda put this information in the manual and make a sticker for under the hood if it did not cause harm ?

Your car your choice though.

My car sat for 3 months before and my IMA battery was fine, I did take out the engine battery and kept that on a trickle charger.

Currently my car has been sitting for 2 months without starting and no trickle charger (engine battery is disconnected and it is a Optima Yellow top) , I was waiting for some custom parts to be made. I will be putting it back together tomorrow, ill let you know how it goes.

But I'm not worried.

As a buyer, sure, if I were you, I would say hey if this car has been sitting for 200 or so days that can damage the IMA battery, so I need you to come down on the price. If its been sitting for 200 days, no one wants it at that price point anyway, you have control of the sale. Get as much of a discount as you can.
 

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Owners manual and sticker under hood says drive car 30 minutes a month specifically for the IMA battery. To be honest you do not know if not running it has affected your IMA system. Why would Honda put this information in the manual and make a sticker for under the hood if it did not cause harm ?

Your car your choice though.

I know what the manual says, I am just sharing my personal experience, my car runs fine. To be honest you don't know my car either. Honda would put that sticker because its probably a good thing to do and recommended by their engineers. I am just sharing that this did not kill my hybrid battery. I am not suggesting anyone do what I have done but at least you have a person on this forum that can inform another potential owner an example of what to expect.

I mean would you rather me say nothing? The OP asked what happens if the car sits for a long time I simply gave an example from a personal experience.

On a side note I just bought a Tesla Model 3 and mmmmmm I honestly feel electric is the future and I probably won't by another gas powered car ever lol

Buy a TESLA :)
 

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@garfieldlasagna Did you find a CRZ yet? Here in Southern California there is a large group of CRZ owners that are in the ready to sell state of mind. We can definitely vouch for a good one for you. For instance if I were to sell my car lol well I would give you a huge discount because its been raced to hell, turbo charged, 2nd transmission, tons of miles. But other than that it seams fine. lol If I ever sell my CRZ I would recommend a back up motor because I feel like my motor is a time bomb, but my tranny is cool ... how is that for Honesty ;)
 

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I know what the manual says, I am just sharing my personal experience, my car runs fine. To be honest you don't know my car either. Honda would put that sticker because its probably a good thing to do and recommended by their engineers. I am just sharing that this did not kill my hybrid battery. I am not suggesting anyone do what I have done but at least you have a person on this forum that can inform another potential owner an example of what to expect.

I mean would you rather me say nothing? The OP asked what happens if the car sits for a long time I simply gave an example from a personal experience.

On a side note I just bought a Tesla Model 3 and mmmmmm I honestly feel electric is the future and I probably won't by another gas powered car ever lol

Buy a TESLA :)
But you still do not know if having it sit and not being run has shortened the life of your IMA system or not but the other things you have done and it now being your second or other number less used car will cause more issues than what has already been done to it. But as I said earlier your car your choices your money.
 

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Sure if you don't drive the car logic would say that it may shorten the life of the battery and everything points to that its not good for the car. I never said that it was ok to do it. I simply said that my car has not been driven for long periods of time and it feels fine.

Why do you have to say my car my money my choices like you're my judge? Have I committed a crime lol

I am simply here to inform other members of my experiences with the Honda CRZ platform and to search for other members experiences as well so I may be informed and maybe I can help others, isn't that what this forum is for, or else what are we doing here.
 

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Lets agree to disagree. You say your car is fine with having been sitting unused. You and I simply do not know what can occur if a CR-Z sits and is not driven as directed by the sticker under the hood and all the documentation in the owners manual. It is your choice to not drive the car and it is your money if something needs to be repaired or replaced or its life is shortened. These are your choices. I am not judging you, just reminding you and others who read the postings that it is their choice to not follow what the engineers and manufacturer has directed to do to keep the IMA system happy.

Yours is one experience and that is valuable as far as it goes. You also have done things to the car which may shorten the life of the car and cause you to have to repair ( you are on your second transmission for example) and you by your own admission drive the car hard after adding forced induction. You by your own admission state you do not follow what Honda has stated about maintaining the IMA system. Not following what the engineers and the manufacturer has stated you do at your own peril and again it is your choice and ultimately your money. A true statement.

I have a stock CR-Z bought brand new and I have over 75K miles on it and the only failed parts on mine is an under hood battery and crank position sensor that failed under warranty. I change all fluids more often and use full synthetic oil and am a fanatic about maintaining it up to at at least one long drive per week not just once a month. I religiously follow all of the directions provided by Honda as I need to keep this car as long as possible at the lowest possible maintenance cost.

You usage and needs are obviously different. We all have different needs. I have always been a one car at a time owner and do everything I can to avoid having to buy another one.

Why do you have to say my car my money my choices like you're my judge? Have I committed a crime lol
 

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Its all good, I totally agree with you that I have done everything to shorten the life of my car. My car is 100% an example of what not to do if you're going by manufacture guidelines. Im pretty sure I broke every rule in the book. To be honest I was with some CRZ owners on a canyon run and my engine caught on fire. In that moment when we pulled over, none of us had a fire extinguisher and being on a mountain road I was like "well I guess I'm going to be on the news tonight with my car going up in flames". Luckily it was just engine oil that leaked out of a bursted line from a previous repair and the fire went out.

You and I are opposite when it comes to our CRZ's and thats great. Im sure your car will last a long time with no issues, as for me I'm expecting my car to break down. And for whatever reason thats part of the enjoyment ... for me anyway. :)

On a side note with the Tesla I just purchased I will probably go your route. Stick to the manufacture recommendations. Well there isn't much to do to a Tesla except charge it, tires, brake pads maybe. The day you decide to get a new car you should consider a Tesla. ;)

And if you do purchase one, Ill see you on the Tesla Forums... Cheers.

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Sorry we kind of thread jacked you. Back to topic ... Did you buy the CRZ?
 

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About trust :D You should NEVER trust a seller, no matter if it's a new car or especially if it's used. They will always hide something from you, it is a fact, I have burned a thousand times. Better to test all before purchasing and negotiating about the price. If you have some good specialist who can test drive it you should go ahead, or if it is hard to proceed, better check the VIN numbers, more or less it will show all the history of the vehicle. and you'd have an opportunity to talk down the price.

P.S. The tool I mentioned is completely free, I used to use it a long time, so it's a kind of a tested tool.

Good luck
Yeah they are charging $14.95 for telling you anything more than you already know (like it has 2 seats and CVT etc)
 
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