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Throttle bodies

Meanwhile Original Recaro Seats arrived for The K-RZ( Present)




Back to build (Past)
As CRz is drive by wire throttle(DBW),so prefer the engine who has DBW throttle body like a k24a2/3. For those who dont know the differnce.DBW TB have an enlectronic grip on them

Drive by cable have some spring mechanism on which cable attaches


As you are aiming for performace now instead of economy,its better to upgrade throttle body. If engine did't came with DBW than you can buy RX8 throttle body from ebay,its 75 mm and is very cheap than K-tuned 70 mm Throttle body. Both will require an adapter plate made to fit them onto intake manifold.For those who wondering OEM TSX k24a2 is 64mm,some say 62mm.

These pics are from my Honda Fit k20 swap which is using k20 with Rx8 throttle body.Two wiere in throttle body grip also need re-positioned in thee grip,very easy.


On the k24 crz i am using OEM DBW throttle body for now.later on plan to use RX8 one.I also have by passed the coolant ports of throttle body as i live in a warm country.(Pakistan)
So this again reminds when choosing an engine, have a look at its throttle body and prefer the ones who have DBW throttle body.
 

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A detour

Ok guys we are nearing the wiring section of this build.Remebr the three main goals of this thread
1: Budget build
2:Most things to a as D.I.Y to save the labor
3:Do all the wiring on your own
Before we go to main build to like to take you guys to a de-tour. than we will return to main story. There is very important lesson to be learnt in it.
The thing happned to me that i bought the engine online. The engine looked very clean on outside in pics




My mistake that i should have asked the guy to remove valve cover and show me inside pics.So thats the main lesson i want to convey to you people when buying engine. When i opened valve cover to do valve adjustments,look what i saw








Seems that this engine was sitting for years. Upon opening valve cover the oil sludge was so thick and solid on cams and other parts. i tied to clean it with every thing i got and lot of elbow grease but no success. I asked advice from k20a.org and they all suggested i change the head.
https://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?p=3261842
Buy changing head meant i had to remove crank pulley (nighmare to do,see some videos online people trying) ,i had to buy new head gasket, new head bolts(Honda OEm are one time use only becasue they strach when tighten,some advice to measure them for the strech,but i did't want to take risk,so i used new ARp bolts instead).and ofcourse the whole new head i wil have to buy. So my mistake costed me near 700$-800$ plus a lot of worked had to be done,i mean a lot.You will see in the pics.
A simple checking method of inside of engine is to remove oil cap and look inside.This my CRz engine,look how clean the insides are


Yet it is dirty from outside

A more accurate method is to ask seller to remove valve cover and send pics.but again he can send pics of a diffenret clean engine to you.So its a tricky buy and most important in this swap. If you buy a good engine and pay slightly more it will save you many more $$$.


Again the stuff about to be discussed and shown is fairly advanced.Do not freak out,its totally optional as well. Depends upon which engine you buy.
Ok lets start tearing it down



To open cranck pulley,i locked the flywheel with a thick metal plate and two screws. One screw is tight to flywheel,other is free in the hole


With flywheel locked,i used a long breaker bar and an extention bar/cheater bar on crack fulley bolt using 19 mm socket,while two men were holding engine stable.


After the pulley was defeated,crank case opned.Note that all scrrews are not same lenght,Try to label them etc

After removing old head,i cleaned cylender walls with a thin sand paper and wd40



Some times the residue on wall is not visible,so feel with your fingers. and some time there is pigmentation on walls but no residue. again feeling with your fingers tell you. Dont over do the cleaning with sand paper or you will disturb the engine hone

After cleaning cylender wall,i washed the coolant pathways. Pouring water from one side and on exit side i used a pipe and tub to not make a mess on floor(already messed up :p)


time to install the new ARP head studs with ARP lube

1st hand tight them using an allen key,than use a Good torque wrench to tight them in specific pattern listed online.

Placing new head gasket



New engine head cleaned and ready to go


Dont forget to clean under side of it


Head placed over the engine block.


Dont forget these two dowel pins to place here for perfect head allingment


Make sure its well seated from all sides before tighening the bolts to studs


I think this post is getting too long.i will continue in next
 

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VTC gear

Again a reminder that above and down posts are Optional.
Head studs tightened according to diagram

All these patterns are easy available online.The cams holders also have removal as well as tightening sequence.


AS you know k24's have 25 degree VTC gear just like our CRZ have.k20's have 50 degree. So why not modify the VTC gear when we are at it.(gains of 25-30 hp)

You will need a hex key set to open it up.only four bolts



k24 dont make power past 45 degree,and piston to wall contact danger is more with full 50 degree.Hondata also recommends to modify k24's to 45 degree. to open it up you will need to detach it from cams. There are thorugh aricles online on this topic.i will just show you some of pics when i modified it.
Opened the inside with hex key set


Dpnt freak out.its not so hard to do,and is optional


Look at the extra metal we need to shave off.Left is k20,right is k24


Hondata recommendation of shaving metal in milimeters.i hope you have vernier calliper and a marker.

You will need to take it to a machine shop to shave of metal or you can use grinder by placing it in a vice to hold it stady.
After all is done,close it
 

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....Seems that this engine was sitting for years. Upon opening valve cover the oil sludge was so thick and solid on cams and other parts. i tied to clean it with every thing i got and lot of elbow grease but no success. ....
Do machine shops not do hot-tanking anymore?

When I worked industrial inspection, we had a vapor tank- some gallons of carbon tetra-chloride in a 6' square tank about 6' deep. It was probably around a couple hundred degrees, creating a fog up to about a foot from the top. When you put something cool in there, the carbon tet would condense on it and rain off, and things came out so clean you'd not believe it. But like so many once-trusted chemicals, I don't think carbon tet is available anymore- at least not in California, where we can't even get licorice.
 

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Do machine shops not do hot-tanking anymore?
Yes they do,but not in my city.Its a small city. Another reason i did most work myself was mechanics and electrictions here dont know about these swaps.i just needed a shop who can just put the engine on stand and drop it in car.
And when i saw such dirty head i was worried about the rest of engine,thats why i went with idea of opening it up and see insides myself and clean them up.
I never seen a dirty head like this before said:
As my plan is to supercharge it so flow of head does't matter much,as blower will positively displace the air into engine.but good suggestion for those who are swapping it for NA power.
Back to build.
Preparing rocker assebmly to be placed on head.So much fun guys.I am glad the head was dirty or i wont have learnt so much.i was just a noob.Thanks to the online stuff on k20a.org, clubrsx and 8thgencivic.com and many more.

Some people try to hold it togather tighty with their hand to avoid faling off the springs but i used zip ties temporarily to held togather it when lifting from floor and placing it to head




Dont worry if it seperated or fall out,easy to put back




Posting these so that you people dont have to go online and search this stuff.
The head bolts tighened according to torque specs.if i remeber 82 ft.lb or 92. A good torque wrench is vital.

The head has been build with supertech valvetrain to handle the boost of supercharger

Lubing the place where cams will rotate,any assembly lube or simple engine oil will also work. If you intend to install engine soon than use oil,if engine will be lying for some time,its better to use assmebly lube as it will stay longer where it need to be.All this lubrication to prevent 1st engine startup dry.


Cams placed over rocker assembly and lubed

cam holder have a lable on them,easy to remeber the order which they go in


Torqing the cam holder screws according to pattern


The removal pattern is differnt.
Again bad luck,the torque wrench didt click on one bold and i broken it inside the engine block :(

I searched online,some said one screw broken is ok. If i needed it removed i had to remove whole head,which meant using a new head gasket too.120$ plus it will take 20-30 days to ship to Pakistan. So i took whole engine to local machine shop who have got very talented men. They welded a metal rod with broken screw and extracted it from same hole it broke in :)(Yaaay we got some serious talent in Pakistan ).
Next installing the timing chain and get it proper timed.You can find stuff online how to do.i will quickly show some pics


Meanwhile locking timing chain tensioner with a pin


You will have to struggle here :p

Getting one click out of TCT
 

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Did you replace the crank bearings?

Btw, please bear with my dumbness, Let's say if I lose the marking on cam pulley against the crank's, how should I align the timing back?
No i didn’t touch the bottom end of engine .crank, pistons, rods etc were ok.
About your question, those markings do help but if you loose them ,no big deal. I lost them too when my timing chain skipped a tooth on crank pulley. but Honda has clear markings over crack pulley as well as cams and timing chain too. Very simple to do. Allign these two on the block and crack

Allign the markings on cams and chain.For k24,the mark of cam should be between the timing chain link as mine below. On k20 the mark shoul be under a link


But easier if two people doing because cams tend to fall out of timing if not held. Its tricky if some one do not want to open crank case and crank pulley. for example of some one only swaps cams. Than some recommend a bungee cord to hold timing chain tight so that it doest slack and jump a teeth at crank pulley. I did try that method but my chain skipped t tooth on crank, so I learned that you need a lot tension in that bungee cord to hold chain tight while you swap cams. Many nice videos on youtube etc etc on this topic of swapping k-series cams.



Looking now at pics,i remember how much i enjoyed working on the engine.
A tip: When you are cleaning engine,be sure to block/cover the head studs holes as that no debrie would enter,otherwise the head bolts will be not properly seated and head will lift and allow coolant and oil to mix.not good. In pic below i have used old head bolts to cover the holes.When engine was cleaned,i removed and used ARP bolts


Some torque specs
K20/24 Torque Specs
SUSPENSION
* Tire Lug Nuts 80 ft/lbs
Front:
* 12mm top nut (1) 33ft/lbs
* 10mm Strut tower Flange Bolts (3) 33 ft/lbs
* 16mm damper pinch bolts (2) 115ft/lbs
* 10mm tie rod nut (1) 32ft/lbs
* brake hose bracket (1) 16ft/lbs
* wheel sensor harness bracket (1) 7.2ft/lbs
* Axle nut 134 ft/lbs

Rear
* 10mm top nut 22ft/lbs
* 10mm strut tower top nuts (2) 43ft/lbs
* 12mm damper bottom bolt 45ft/lbs

Rear Camber Arm
* 12mm outer bolt 43ft/lbs
* 12mm inner bolt (2) 43ft/lbs
* 8mm wheel sensor harness bracket 16ft/lbs

Rear Tie Bar
* 12mm inner bolt 43ft/lbs


SWAY BARS
Front
* 10mm top end link bolt [to bar] 28ft/lbs
* 10mm bottom end link bolt [to car] 29ft/lbs
* 10mm bracket bolt (2) 29ft/lbs

Rear
* 10mm top end link bolt [to bar] 28ft/lbs
* 10mm bottom end link bolt [to car] 29ft/lbs
* 8mm bracket bolt (2) 16ft/lbs
ENGINE
*Cylinder head bolts: 39Nm (29ft/lbs), 90 deg + 90 deg. (One extra 90 deg on new bolts.)
TORQUE ORDER REMOVAL ORDER
10,4,2,6,8 <<<Exhaust>>> 1,7,9,5,3
7,5,1,3,9 <<<Intake>>> 4,6,10,8,2
* Main cap bolts: 29Nm (22ft/lbs) and 56 deg.
* Girdle bolts (M8): 22Nm (16ft/lbs).
* Rod bolts: 29Nm (22ft/lbs) and 90 deg.
* Valve adjustment lock nut: 19Nm (14ft/lbs).
* Valve cover bolts: 12Nm (8.7ft/lbs).
* Chain tensioner bolts: 12Nm (8.7ft/lbs).
* Cam holder bolts: M8 22Nm (16ft/lbs), M6 12Nm (8.7ft/lbs).
* Intake Cam Gear: 112Nm (83ft/lbs).
* Exhaust Cam Gear: 69Nm (51ft/lbs).
* Timing chain cover: M6 12Nm (8.7ft/lbs).
* Crank Pulley: 245Nm (181ft/lbs).
* Flywheel: 118Nm (87ft/lbs).
* Spark plugs:23Nm (17ft/lbs).
* Valve Cover (6) 7ft/lbs
* Valve Lock nut 14ft/lbs
* Spark Plugs (4) 17ft/lbs

SUB FRAME & MOUNTS
* Upper Pass engine mount Flange Nut 40 ft/lbs
* Rear Engine Mount 43 ft/lbs
* Front Engine Mount 47 ft/lbs
* Transmission Engine Mount 40 ft/lbs
* 14mm sub frame bolts (4) 76ft/lbs

OIL CHANGE
* Oil Drain Plug: 29ft/lbs (33 ft/lbs Base models and EP3)
* Oil filter: 8.7ft/lbs
* Oil Pan: 8.7ft/lbs

TRANSMISSION
* Drain plug: 29ft*lbs
* Filler plug: 33ft*lbs
* Flywheel cover: 9ft*lbs
* Flywheel: 90ft*lbs
* Pressure Plat/Clutch: 19ft*lbs

EXHAUST
* 10mm Header Bolts/Nuts 33 ft/lbs
* 8mm Header to Down pipe spring nut 16 ft/lbs
* 10mm exhaust manifold bracket bolts 33ft/lbs
* O2 sensors 33ft/lbs
* Cat to mid pipe nut 25 ft/lbs

FLYWHEEL
* Main bolt 90 ft/lbs
* Pressure plate 19 ft/lbs
* Step To Surface OEM Spec's .047in AKA..(47 Thousands Of An Inch)

Half shaft three bolts = 29 ft.lbs
Valve cover 7.2 lb/ft

Torue below 12 lb/ft is rather hand tight. Dont try torque wrench on very low torque specs.It will not click and break the screw
 

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New clucth and flywheel

Now our engine timed,lets clean the Vtec solenoid and vtec pressure switch


Removing vtec solenoid

Vtec pressure switch

Cleaned them with toothbrush and break cleaner.



Those two were totally clogged.Without cleaning those you can imagined my VTEC ever have engaged. These two i recommned cleaning,These are on side of engine.easy to remove and install.
Some time the vtec switch doesn't fully seats,just slight tap with rubber mallet is needed. IF you will tigh the screw without it properly seated,it will break.


Presparing the crank case cover with honda bond.remeber some of its screws are different.so label or mark them before removing



Yaay almost done.Lets install our new Stage 2 clutch and flywheel.:wink2:
The OEm clutch and flywheel was fine but as i intend to supercharge it so i upgraded to Competition Clutch new series stage II clutch with its flywheel


To open up flywheel bolts you will need to hold crank pulley on opposite side with a breaker bar who's other end would be on florr..If you remember we held flywheel when we were removing cranck pulley and also when tighening it.same goes here,just the opposite

Picture below shows no cranck pulley but to show the method to hold it


Dont forget to place pilot bearing in

Acura 22103-PNA-003 Clutch Pilot Bearing 9$ only
https://www.amazon.com/Acura-22103-PNA-003-Clutch-Pilot-Bearing/dp/B00KQWNDC4



Flywheel installed, Bolts tightened to 92lb/ft in zig zag pattern with torque wrench.

You will need star shapped extension key to tighten them.I advice buy a set of these sockets too.


Finally the clutch and pressure plate installed.

 

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And lets put some effort to detailing :wink2:

I used Rustolium Brake calliper red paint.2000 F heat resistant

Install exhaust aswell as intake manifolts.Ignition coils,spark plugs NGK BKR7EIX or BKR8EIX if you plan to boost it .
Beofre putting valve cover back,read online where to apply Honda bond on some point to avoid leackage of oil. and do valve adjustments according to Honda specs. Youtube has some nice videos on K-series valve adjustments.
You will need a feeler guage.very cheap



Always do when engine is cold.(Not applicable here as the engine is not even swapped yet).

Not difficult at all.This is the best time to do it becasue you have 360 degree access to engine.Hard to do inside hood








Yes it turned out beatiful :smile2: and now we know its not the outside which is as clean as inside and prepared as it should be.that gives peice of mind


Clutch and throttle body covered to prevent dust


Let the monster rest while we prepare the wiring



Engine Belt/Serpentine Belt:

For a k24/k20 hybrid swap using k20 idler pulley the belt will be 7pk-1640.
for a purre k24a2 using k24 hydraulic power steering pulley as seen in initial pages for my build, it will be 7pk-173- or may be 1740.
Later on i swapped that hydaulic power steering pulley with a k20 idler pulley that is smaller in size.(also can be seen in those posts) the belt will be 7pk-1710 or 1720 can also be fiited. So can 1700 but will be tigh.
Here is a good read




But there is no rule of thumb here.because some will delete AC or power stering,so their belt will be different.Similar is the case from where the k24 came from. Some have different crank pulley size. some come from CR-V,some from RDX etc etc.
So while your engine is out,take a thread and wind it around all the pulleys and measure it.that will give you rough idea in mm or inches. Just look that online and order the belt. It must be 7 ribbed belt( 7Pk)

Yesss finally the wiring section is here guys.The main reason posting this build.
I may be busy tomorow and there its is lot to post from wiring point of view.may be i will post after tomorow.
 

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Today i wanted to post the wiring section but the internet will be down for two days.So instead i am doing my CRz headlights customization and converting them to bi-xenons also.At this late hour of night the internet is back for some time,so instead positng swap build here are some of headlight work pics.Still in progress.(this all is in present.The k24 swap was in past,near two months ago)














Trying some ideas,not finalized yet.

Tomorow i will be busy in completing the headlights. Dont worry that all black color will dim the lights.i have converted the to Bi-xenons.Now they dont need reflaction from background to produce light.
On weakend i will post wiring InshaAllah.
 

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Alternator and Starter wiring

Back to the main engine swapp build. Lets start the wiring.
The wiring we will be using is 06-11 Civic si, part number 32110-RRB-A04 because my CRZ is older than 2013. For CRZ/Fit above 2013 the 13-15 Civic Si wiring should be ordered.
On eBay there are various listings. Some are selling wiring alone and some are selling wiring with charge harness too. Search for good deal and order.
Like this guy selling both. Some time it’s not listed but you will have to look carefully on picture of listing to see if charge harness is included or not


This also is selling both and I think he don’t know himself either: wink2:


Alone charge harness looks like this. Goes like 80$ but as i said earlier you will find good deals on combined.

Always match the part number


As CRZ has alternator/gernerator fuse integrated on battery +ve terminal,so we will make slight change in Civic si charge harness terminal.


Civic si fuse box and alternator wire location


Below is the charge harness which we will modify. Cut the plastic to expose alternator wires.


We will be getting rid of the extra terminal and its wire


We will modify the remaining terminal so that it can fit our CRZ. Just removing extra metal and making a hole in the remainder.




And here is what it will look like on battery +ve terminal




The items used for this
 

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Starter wire

If you are using k20,no need to modify this, If using k24,you may need to modify.
Picture below shows my k24 starter


It has a rounder terminal cap while the Civic si grip has square shaped grip.



My k24 engine came with its own compolete wiring,so i removed the rubber cover from it and put that on Civic si starter grip.


The extracted terminal is too narrow to fit the k24 starter.So i opened it up from one side to make some room.

Final result.


There are many many ways you can do it.you can just attach wire to a terminal and put it on the starter.

I liked the factory terminal quality so i modified it. Now let see the other end of starter wire. It ends on big rounder terminal covered with red plastic cover.


At this time i did't know that the CRZ battery +ve terminal containing all the fuses can be detached from the starter terminal. So i cut the CRZ starter wire and attached my k-series starter wire after modifying it.


What i did was i cut the rounder terminal with cutter plas and made a hole in it so that it fits the screw on the baterry +ve terminal.


But this is totally not needed. All you need to do is remove this screw and detach CRZ starter terminal( instead of cutting its wire like i did) and attach the Si terminal in its place.Its plug & play.


Again,this can be done in manny ways.You can attach your own fancy terminals etc etc. main purpose is to join starter wire to battery +ve terminal Un-fused.
One last step remains.We modified the starter terminal labelled as '1' . Its other end is labelled'3' in pic below.


The lenght of this wire is very short to reach our main wiring grip.So you will cut this end and add a thick wire to it and attach that wire to the CRZ main wiring grip which i will mention later.


Attach other end here in main crz grip thick green wire(your color may be differnt)



Two joined togather


The starter modification under hood ends here. But the other end of that green wire which is going into driver compartment fuse box,that need to be attached to the ignition wire from ignition switch. Thats is if you want to bypass clucth pedal depressing feature for CRZ starting.(manuals only).




But if you want to keep that feature of pressing clutch pedal when startting CRZ,that you dont need to do anything in fusebox. Instead you will follow HAsport wiring instructions here.


HAsport is talking about this CRZ grip. But the pic is of engine side grip. The other end of this grip (Chassis side) is what maches the colors according to Hasport.I dont know why Honda chnage color of wire from one side of grip to other. This got me lot of confused and i contaced them that they have mentioned wrong color of wires. They answered that the color and wire will match in chassis side of CRZ 124 plug not engine side.
I know guys this is bit confusing but once you have all the things in front of you,than this all will make sense.
Left one is engine side and right one is chassis side or vise versa.i cant remember correctly. but one will match colors with HAsport instruction which i also will share later.
I am removing plastic cover on one grip to expose it

Grip exposed


Its colors matching exactly to wiring instructions about this red wire at position 3.


Fun is that this wire is for refernece only as its part of CRZ wiring whihc we wont be using. Instead you will use the wire which is opposite to this wire.Which in my case blue wire.


I know it can be confusing but we struggled to start the car so i am posting this. We had to give up the color coding and direct hte ignition wires as i mentioned above when joined pink and green wire( not proper way,but does the job).
Dont cut the grip as yet untill all the wiring is complete which will be during swap.The grip i am holding in my hand is CRz 124 grip which i cut when all wiring was complete and to make things clean look.



So this completes our charge harness wiring.knock sensor i already have covered in sensors modification in very earlier posts of this build.

Next remains adding O2 sensor wiring and the main grips wiring and we will proceed with the actual swap into car.
 

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In above post i wanted to add a new method but it wont let me save my edit becoz that post has more than 20 diagrams. Here goes
Alternate Method: There is another method to bypas this. in that you dont need to find the starter relay and this green wire inside.This method i found by user Merle Schnick in youtube video comments. Thanks to him.

If you want to be able to start the car (in neutral) without pressing the clutch, for the reasons you indicated about the clutch moving the crank laterally against the side thrust bearing plates in a k24/k20 engine becasue these were not designed to be started with clutch pressed.
Your Note 2 (from DropBox "CRZ A Plug Conversion Instructions") says to slice (wire together) the depinned ECM A12 wire to the depinned C124 #3 wire, and then the clutch bypass switch will operate "correctly", which means like normal, i.e., that clutch must be depressed to start. Not what I want. So, the depinned ECM A12 is "looking for" a chassis ground to complete the circuit through the starter cut relay, thus energizing the starter cut relay & closing the contacts, and then the +12v (fused 7.5A) from ignition Start position (IGN-III) will flow through the closed relay contacts to C124 #1, which connects to the starter solenoid (and start the engine). So, just wire the depinned A12 to chassis ground? Yes, I know I will need to connect the heavy wire from C124 #1 to the starter solenoid. (ref schematic, in CR-Z 2011-2012 Service Manual, vol.1, pg. 4-4).(but this method is yet to be tested,as of 23-08-22)
Now onto wiring
So before we discuss main wiring,you should have some basic tools with you like , crimping tool,paper cutter,marker,electrical tape,heat shirink connectors, heat shrink rubber tubes,voltmeter with buzzer function.(Uni-T UT33D is good and cheap one, 15$)

buy some wires of verious lenghts in many colors mostly 18-20 guage. for starter wire buy some 12 guage.

Heat shrink butt connectors,these have soldering material in them.No need to solder the wires.just heat with lighter and they work very well. A must buy


For extra insulation,heat shrink rubber sleeves.I put them over the butt connectors for extra insulation.



Civic Si ecu. ECU part : 37820-RRB-A12 A14 is for auto.dont order that nor the A05. The transponder and the ignition key shown down is not needed if you have a good keymatching/immoblizer programming software like Autel, LAunch etc tec and have Honda dealership near which also do the programming.


ECU A,(white) B(Grey) and C (Green) plugs.


Your New Si wiring will have B,C plug which need no change.The A plug will be used of your CRZ wiring.Its simple when you take out CRZ engine its B and C grips will be with the engine. You will be left with ECU A plug under the hood along with its wiring which will need very few changes to be plugged into new Civic si ECU.


You can also order Guages of your choice. I am using Greddy knock offs and they are very accurate and so far working good(for last 3 months)
oil temp,oil pressure,water temperature etc etc
404 page
Because when you will pass other wire from your firewall hole,pass guages sensor wire at that time too.As engine is out of car,very easy to do at that time.
Some basic ECU code read and clear like, ELM 327



Next i will tell you how to modify A-Plug than we will cover main wiring section.
 

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Wiring Grip A Of CRZ

The wait is over guys.Lets start the main wiring.
1st we will modify the CRZ ECU wiring A grip according to Civic Si Grip A diagram.Make sense right? Because now the ECU being used will be Civic Si,so all wiring need to according to Si and not the CRZ ECU.
Down is the easy table for making changes in CRZ ECU-A plug wiring. The one with 'X' wire are not needed any more and you can remove them. The other need to change the location within this plug.
Do note that CRZ ZF2 and Fit GE and GK have 49 pin ecu plugs not 44. So in those you will use 2013+ Si wiring and ECU.







Now lets learn how to pin and de-pin.
I am holding the ECU-A white plug in my hand.1st you will need to unlock it by pushing a plastic tap.




Now you will need a sharp tool to insert into pin location to lift the pin holding cap. You can use a dental pick, or a safety pin. I took a small flat head screw driver and grinded its tip to make it pointed,

Or




Lift the lock and pull the same pin from opposite side gently.




Yaaaay you have completed plug-A conversion. Now lets modify the B and C plugs..
Just kidding.We dont need to change anything to B and C plugs :smile2: as they are already of Si wiring.
 

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ECu pinouts CRZ and Si

A very important requirment is to have both CRZ and Si ECU pinouts. The main changes needed are only in CRZ-A plug which i covered in above post. But some time we need to check sensor wire continuety if some sensor is not working.So we should know where that wire is going in ECU. Thats why i am posting these.Print them and keep them with you during the swap.I have shared all the latest pinouts in my dropbox folder.You can see and even download them.It has ZF2 aswell as Fit GE & GK pinouts
1st CRZ ECC/PCM Plug-A




As we dont have to do anything with CRZ B & C plugs so i was not posting them.but the links in this post CR-Z ECU Wiring
are expired so i am posting CRZ-B and C grips also.but again remember we dont need these in this swap
CRZ Grip-B




CRZ Grip-C


Now for Civic Si 2007-11 pinouts.(for guys 2013+ crz they will need 2012-15 Civic Si pinouts,available online,i dont have them).If image seems smaller,right click on it and select 'view image' option




Plug-B (Grey color)



Plug-C(green)



I know they are not so clear.So at end of this build i will share a dropbox folder containing all the neat diagrams and videos. so you can print them.
In next post i will adress the main wiring portion about CRZ 124 and Civic Si plug.That will conclude most of our wiring.and thats the main part which people fail to figure out.
 

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...(for guys 2013+ crz they will need 2012-15 Civic Si pinouts,available online,i don't have them)...
Yes--that's an important note! Just reposting here to emphasize. :) Thanks for the complete write-up and attention to detail. :thumbsup:
 
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