A load of lighting problems. Help please!

Hi, so the other day I started my car and the VSA check came on. I drove it thinking it would go off but it hasn't. Along with this problem the turn signal, hazard, and horn stopped working all together. I have no idea what is going on. The one of the headlights, mostly the the driver side, has been acting up for about 3 months now as well. It would sometimes not turn on. Other times when I turn the lights off for awhile then on again, it would work. It's hit or miss though. This car has begun to become a pain with all the light issues. To sum up, the VSA check came on, turn signal, hazard, and horn stopped working, and the headlights sometimes does not work.

Has anyone had any issues close to these?

The car is all stock with around 120,000 miles. I changed the spark plugs about 4 months ago and that was it.

If anyone can shine some light on this issue, I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you all.

Have you checked fuses and ground wires where they attach under the dash (up under the center/driver's side dash,) the ground wires in the engine bay, connecting to the body and/or transmission and engine....check for loose and/or corroded wire ends/bolts? If all looks good, disconnect the negative and positive battery terminals and wait 10 minutes, then reconnect (might clear misc. issues.)


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Have you checked fuses and ground wires where they attach under the dash (up under the center/driver's side dash,) the ground wires in the engine bay, connecting to the body and/or transmission and engine....check for loose and/or corroded wire ends/bolts? If all looks good, disconnect the negative and positive battery terminals and wait 10 minutes, then reconnect (might clear misc. issues.)

Thanks a lot, members! This is great! I've been at these problems for a month and decided to join here to find help and you guys surpassed my expectations.

About the car, I have checked all fuses and none are bad. I have disconnected the battery multiple times and after awhile the VSA light would still come up. The turn signal and horn have only started acting up a month ago. I'll have to check the ground wires (didn't think of that).

d1giPhux, thanks a lot for all of those pictures! Will save me so much time on searching for them. I'll try these suggestions out and see what happens.

Edited previous post to include wire harness index so you can have an easier time finding all those ground wires. Looks like your gonna have to pull your front bumper for some if you want to check them.

Yes great posts d1giPhux. If you get through with all those and still persisting check the hazard switch (physical switch on the dash), many Hondas if the hazard switch has an issue then the turn signals also won't work.

**Update**
Car: 2011 Honda CRZ Base Model

I have checked all of the grounds that I can get to (thanks to d1giPhux), all the fuses (literally), and the relays for the past 3 days. I have found nothing wrong. Volt meter shows nothing either. I'm stumped. At this point, I really need the car so I'll have to take it to the pros. Really didn't want it to come to this but I just got a ticket ($170) for not using my turn signals.

Thank you all for the tips and help. Unfortunately, this is way out of my skill level. I'll keep you all updated with the results.

Klor said:

...At this point, I really need the car so I'll have to take it to the pros. Really didn't want it to come to this but I just got a ticket ($170) for not using my turn signals. ...

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In the meantime, use the old-fashioned, left arm pointing out the driver's side window for left turns; arm up for right handers, and you'll save another $170 donation to the locals.>

Damn, really sorry you didn't get this fixed.

My guess is that its the ground behind the front bumper.

Please let us know what it ends up being. I would be very interested to know.

**Update**

Got the car fixed. All lights and horn work perfectly! And to the problem, which was an easy fix if only I had looked there. Turns out that the main fuse box was corroded underneath and blocked electric current from flowing. This explains why so many different issues happened at the same time. The fix was to replace the entire fuse box. Could have just cleaned it and solder the connections but I needed my car so I paid the guy $180 to fix it ($10 more than my f**king ticket).

Thank you all who have given me advice. I greatly appreciate it. Moral of the story, don't just check fuse and wire connection, check the damn fuse box too!

Klor said:

**Update**

Got the car fixed. All lights and horn work perfectly! And to the problem, which was an easy fix if only I had looked there. Turns out that the main fuse box was corroded underneath and blocked electric current from flowing. This explains why so many different issues happened at the same time. The fix was to replace the entire fuse box. Could have just cleaned it and solder the connections but I needed my car so I paid the guy $180 to fix it ($10 more than my f**king ticket).

Thank you all who have given me advice. I greatly appreciate it. Moral of the story, don't just check fuse and wire connection, check the damn fuse box too!

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Thanks for the update! Not a common problem at all, so it's good to know what the solution was, in case someone else happens to see the same symptoms with their CR-Z.:grin2:

You see that kind of damage in flood cars. Was your car ever in a flood and which fuse box the one under the hood or in the passenger compartment? Glad they found the issue and it is now fixed. Hopefully while the fuse box was out they did some cleaning. You may want to float the fuse box and use some rust converter paint on the metal. My concern would be a repeat or worse if the metal rusts through. Make sure water is still not getting there ( unless under the hood):smile2:

Klor said:

....The fix was to replace the entire fuse box. Could have just cleaned it and solder the connections but I needed my car so I paid the guy $180 to fix it ($10 more than my f**king ticket). ....

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If it's not too late, the judge may dismiss fines if you show you've corrected it. Depends on where you are.

Nice to know the fix!! And i bet you it was the ground on the fuse box!!!

Glad you got it all fixed, and not a bad price either!!

Definitely going to check my stuff as soon as the weather is better here. We live in salt-land and I can see how this could happen. I bet the corrosion comes from dis-similar metals, and also from bad ground connections!!

Really glad you got it sorted out! Awesome info to know!!

Klor said:

**Update**

Got the car fixed. All lights and horn work perfectly! And to the problem, which was an easy fix if only I had looked there. Turns out that the main fuse box was corroded underneath and blocked electric current from flowing. This explains why so many different issues happened at the same time. The fix was to replace the entire fuse box. Could have just cleaned it and solder the connections but I needed my car so I paid the guy $180 to fix it ($10 more than my f**king ticket).

Thank you all who have given me advice. I greatly appreciate it. Moral of the story, don't just check fuse and wire connection, check the damn fuse box too!

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