Gear Ratios (CVT)

[Diane L]

With the CVT the paddle shifters let you kind of take over and shift when you want.

The question is: In each of the three modes (Eco, Normal, Sport) what ratios do you get when using the paddles?

TIA

[RiseAgainst197]

7 ratios in each mode. In Econ mode it always wants to take over and shift, but if you got it in econ mode then you dont want higher rpm's anyway. Kinda defeats the purpose of economy. Normal and Sport will let you carry rpm's all the way to redline and will not shift when you dont want to.

[Diane L]

That was understood. The question is what ratio is chosen for each gear.

[91CRXTC]

their are no "gears" just shift points, but i still dont have that info either

[David_PA]

Originally Posted by Diane L

That was understood. The question is what ratio is chosen for each gear.

Is this what you are looking for Diane?

Manual

Gear Ratios: 1st: 3.143, 2nd: 1.870, 3rd: 1.303, 4th: 1.054, 5th: 0.854, 6th: 0.689, Reverse: 3.307, Final Drive: 4.11

CVT

Gear Ratios: 3.173~0.529, Reverse: 5.666~2.167, Final Drive: 4.20

[GoHuskies]

Originally Posted by David_PA

Is this what you are looking for Diane?

Manual

Gear Ratios: 1st: 3.143, 2nd: 1.870, 3rd: 1.303, 4th: 1.054, 5th: 0.854, 6th: 0.689, Reverse: 3.307, Final Drive: 4.11

CVT

Gear Ratios: 3.173~0.529, Reverse: 5.666~2.167, Final Drive: 4.20

Going by those numbers the MT gets taller "gearing" for highway which explains how you MT guys are smacking us CVT guys in fuel economy posts.

[Dio]

Originally Posted by GoHuskies

Going by those numbers the MT gets taller "gearing" for highway which explains how you MT guys are smacking us CVT guys in fuel economy posts.

Sorry for being noobish. Not very good at this so be nice.

I'd always thought lower gear ratio when cruising would produce better fuel economy. Hence the lowest number for the CVT is smaller than the manual in 6th gear. Doesn't this mean that the CVT when cruising, negating all other variables, would produce better fuel economy? Please enlighten me.

[GoHuskies]

Originally Posted by Dio

Sorry for being noobish. Not very good at this so be nice.

I'd always thought lower gear ratio when cruising would produce better fuel economy. Hence the lowest number for the CVT is smaller than the manual in 6th gear. Doesn't this mean that the CVT when cruising, negating all other variables, would produce better fuel economy? Please enlighten me.

I'm a noob at this as well so take my words with a spoonful of salt!

My understanding is the important number here is the final drive ratio. The MT has a lower ratio hence lower cruising RPM's at minimal load situations.

[RiseAgainst197]

A final gear ratio of 4.20(CVT) is a lower gear ratio than 4.11(MT)

[David_PA]

Originally Posted by RiseAgainst197

A final gear ratio of 4.20(CVT) is a lower gear ratio than 4.11(MT)

The CVT's final drive of 4.2 provides more torque than the 6MT's final drive of 4.11, but the MTs final drive gives lower rpms.

However, if it's correct to assume that the CVT has an effective highest gear ratio of .529 compared to 6th gear in the manual at .689, you'd have lower rpms at the same speed in final gear with the CVT because it's lowest ratio more than makes up for the less efficient final drive ratio.