3rd Gear Notchiness? - Honda CRZ Forum: Honda CR-Z Hybrid Car Forums

bassplayrr · 09-17-2010, 04:13 PM

Since I purchase my CRZ I've noticed that the 3rd gear is a smidge notchy. Not bad, at all, just not as butter smooth as the other gears. Curious, and somewhat paranoid from synchro problems in my old WRX, I poked around on the web and noticed that many Honda models in the past have experienced 3rd gear synchro issues.

So, my question to fellow 6MT owners is, does your 3rd gear seam a hair more notchy than your others? I'm sure this is probably normal but would love some feedback.

Is our specific transmission shared with any other Honda models, and do those models experience the 3rd gear issue I've read about with RSXs and Civics?

Thanks.

borcth · 09-17-2010, 04:30 PM

Yea, I noticed 3rd gear is a bit odd. It somtimes wont let me go from 6th straight to 3rd even though the rpms are low enough. I wonder if it has some kind of rev safety feature so it doesnt over rev or it's just twitchy. I have to cycle through the gears or at least go into 4th first then 3rd. I usually cycle through the gears anyway, but somtimes, Ill stop really fast and want to down shift to 4th or even 3rd, but it doesnt seem to wanna go it. So I gotta put it into 4th, then 3rd. I thought it was just me. Guess not.

If there's an issue. Honda should be able to find out about it and come out with a recall fix or something.

gotswap · 09-17-2010, 04:40 PM

If this transmission is anything like the trans in my S2000 then do not ever skip shift. You will fry your syncros quickly as the trans is expecting a certain speed and you are asking it to go even further up the revs then normal.

borcth · 09-17-2010, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by gotswap

If this transmission is anything like the trans in my S2000 then do not ever skip shift. You will fry your syncros quickly as the trans is expecting a certain speed and you are asking it to go even further up the revs then normal.

Yea, good idea. I usually always cycle through the gears anyway as a habit. I just tried it a couple of times when slowing down fast and noticed it wouldnt go it; never forced it though. Thanks for the tip!

91CRXTC · 09-17-2010, 09:30 PM

Some times ive gone from 3rd to 6th or 4th to 6th, hope thats not going to be an issue but if so then i wont do that. My issue i have is that when the auto stop is on and i want to go it sometimes takes a bit of force to get it in 1st, same when goin in to reverse. I have 1400 miles but it just may need more time to break in. Any input?

borcth · 09-17-2010, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 91CRXTC

Some times ive gone from 3rd to 6th or 4th to 6th, hope thats not going to be an issue but if so then i wont do that. My issue i have is that when the auto stop is on and i want to go it sometimes takes a bit of force to get it in 1st, same when goin in to reverse. I have 1400 miles but it just may need more time to break in. Any input?

Mines like that too. What helps I find is wiggling the stick around a bit to get it lose, then put it in. Or put it into 2nd gear first, then back into 1st. That seems to help a bit. I got about 1200 miles as well. So your not the only having tranny woes. Hope that helps. I'm still experimenting.

bassplayrr · 09-17-2010, 09:55 PM

I'm thinking the 3rd gear notchiness is linkage related. Tonight when leaving the office and the car in auto-stop, I attempted to put the car into third from neutral and experienced the same notchiness as I do when moving. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if the engine is stopped the synchro plays no roll in gear engagement. No synchro involvement must mean mean it's linkage related.

I'd still love to hear from ad many 6mt owners as possible. Is your third hear engagement notchy/ more difficult than others?

gotswap · 09-17-2010, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 91CRXTC

Some times ive gone from 3rd to 6th or 4th to 6th, hope thats not going to be an issue but if so then i wont do that. My issue i have is that when the auto stop is on and i want to go it sometimes takes a bit of force to get it in 1st, same when goin in to reverse. I have 1400 miles but it just may need more time to break in. Any input?

I would recommend not doing that, for us S2000 users it is not covered under warrantee.

My third gear has not given me any notice as far as being notchy.

SpoonCrz · 09-17-2010, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by gotswap

I would recommend not doing that, for us S2000 users it is not covered under warrantee.

My third gear has not given me any notice as far as being notchy.

I've own 2 S2000's and skipped gears many times...never I had an issue with both cars.
I've own an 01 and 04. I do match rev all the time and not just throw into the gear and let off the clutch.

borcth · 09-17-2010, 10:34 PM

Anyone notice the rpms shoot up a bit after each shift? Especially when your shifting aggresively. I have to wait a second for the rpms to drop down a second before i shift. Meaning, shift slower into gear. It's kind of wierd. I didnt have this issue with my prelude. I wonder if it has a thing that keeps the rpms up for a moment. It's not like i push the gas in too soon and over rev. As soon as i press the clutch in, the rpms shoot up and come back down for a moment before i put it into the next gear. Not like fly up, but shoot up by about 300-500 rpm, then back down... Any ideas?

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09-17-2010, 04:30 PM	#2 (permalink)
borcth Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: the space coast Posts: 571	Yea, I noticed 3rd gear is a bit odd. It somtimes wont let me go from 6th straight to 3rd even though the rpms are low enough. I wonder if it has some kind of rev safety feature so it doesnt over rev or it's just twitchy. I have to cycle through the gears or at least go into 4th first then 3rd. I usually cycle through the gears anyway, but somtimes, Ill stop really fast and want to down shift to 4th or even 3rd, but it doesnt seem to wanna go it. So I gotta put it into 4th, then 3rd. I thought it was just me. Guess not. If there's an issue. Honda should be able to find out about it and come out with a recall fix or something.

09-17-2010, 09:30 PM	#5 (permalink)
91CRXTC Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Suffolk Long Island NY Posts: 1,635	Some times ive gone from 3rd to 6th or 4th to 6th, hope thats not going to be an issue but if so then i wont do that. My issue i have is that when the auto stop is on and i want to go it sometimes takes a bit of force to get it in 1st, same when goin in to reverse. I have 1400 miles but it just may need more time to break in. Any input?

09-17-2010, 10:34 PM	#10 (permalink)
borcth Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: the space coast Posts: 571	Anyone notice the rpms shoot up a bit after each shift? Especially when your shifting aggresively. I have to wait a second for the rpms to drop down a second before i shift. Meaning, shift slower into gear. It's kind of wierd. I didnt have this issue with my prelude. I wonder if it has a thing that keeps the rpms up for a moment. It's not like i push the gas in too soon and over rev. As soon as i press the clutch in, the rpms shoot up and come back down for a moment before i put it into the next gear. Not like fly up, but shoot up by about 300-500 rpm, then back down... Any ideas?