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MikeCR-Z · 10-11-2009, 04:41 PM

Honda CR-Z concept goes back to two-seater roots

The upcoming Tokyo auto show may have a major dearth of non-Japanese auto makers, after all the North American, Korean and European auto manufacturers (outside of Lotus) pulled out of the show, but Honda is still looking to make a major international splash with the premiere of the two-seater CR-Z hybrid coming to Canada for 2010.

Honda released photos last week of the Honda CR-Z Concept 2009, which appears to be a production ready version of the CR-Z hybrid sports car concept that Honda Canada confirmed last week will be available here next year. Although Honda is not revealing many technical details about the car until closer to the show's opening on Oct. 24, it's expected to offer a similar 1.5-litre Integrated Motor Assist (IMA) engine as the Honda Insight hybrid, but with less weight and more performance thanks to two seats, and an enthusiast-friendly six-speed manual transmission.

That two-seat, low weight emphasis was prevalent on the first generation Honda Insight that debuted in 2000 in North America. But that same lighter-is-better formula was also what made the Honda CRX so much fun to drive, as a shortened, stiffened and lightened version of the Civic in the 1980s and 90s. And just like the old CRX hatchback, the new CR-Z concept offers a black but see-through rear hatch to aid in rear visibility.

Honda has also confirmed that it will sell hybrid versions of the Fit and next generation Honda Civic in Europe and Japan as part of a new emphasis on small hybrid vehicles, but hasn't confirmed when those vehicles are coming to North America. With the current generation Honda Civic entering its fifth year this fall, it's a safe bet that a new gasoline version will appear soon, to be in dealerships by this time next year.

Manufacturing teams from the Alliston, Ont., Honda plant that build all Civics sold in Canada - except the Hybrid - are in Japan now working on it, factory officials confirmed last week. Sales of the Civic Hybrid would have to be sold in much higher numbers to be able to justify bringing its production to North America as well, said Honda Canada Manufacturing's Jon Minto.

Another interesting Tokyo debut for Honda with production possibility is the Skydeck concept minivan, although as a "design study," it's easily at least a few more auto shows away than the CR-Z. The Skydeck is a six-seater minivan that has scissor-like front doors, two sliding rear doors and no B pillar to hamper entry into the second row. It also features Honda's IMA hybrid system, a clear roof and green translucent wheels for that extra spacey look. On the other hand, the Honda Odyssey has been on the market a long time now...

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marinjim · 10-12-2009, 09:08 AM

I found this photo of jump seats in the CRZ and I for one think it would be good for very short trips, especially if the passengers were kids. Think Toyota iQ and the kid seat behind the driver.

Anyone know the status of the back seats?

MikeCR-Z · 10-12-2009, 01:33 PM

We still really are waiting for official confirmation. Seems like every news article seems to state something different, which usually isn't surprising when nothing is official

I still could see Honda throwing us a curve ball and giving the Honda CRZ a four seat option to those who are interested. Hopefully at Tokyo, Honda will let us know for sure!

marinjim · 10-22-2009, 09:26 PM

"Fitted with a 6-speed manual transmission and sport-tuned suspension, the upcoming CR-Z certainly will be engaging for the driver, the first hybrid sports coupe on the market. Although the car on display at Tokyo has a tiny back seat, the production CR-Z (which makes its worldwide debut at the North American International Auto Show in Detroit in January) is a sporty 2-seater, one with the added practicality of a hatchback."

2011 Honda CR-Z- Yahoo! Autos Article Page

Magius · 10-23-2009, 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marinjim

"Fitted with a 6-speed manual transmission and sport-tuned suspension, the upcoming CR-Z certainly will be engaging for the driver, the first hybrid sports coupe on the market. Although the car on display at Tokyo has a tiny back seat, the production CR-Z (which makes its worldwide debut at the North American International Auto Show in Detroit in January) is a sporty 2-seater, one with the added practicality of a hatchback."

2011 Honda CR-Z- Yahoo! Autos Article Page

I guess Honda thinks that a 2+2 (or even 4) seater cannot be called sporty... meh.

Hargert · 10-23-2009, 12:31 PM

It can be sporty for the rest of the world not just in the North American market. I am not sure why Honda America is going this route.

MikeCR-Z · 10-23-2009, 01:21 PM

Almost like Honda is trying to bite on the Pontiac Solstice / Saturn Sky crowd after they are no longer produced.

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MikeCR-Z Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,497	Honda CR-Z concept goes back to two-seater roots Honda CR-Z concept goes back to two-seater roots The upcoming Tokyo auto show may have a major dearth of non-Japanese auto makers, after all the North American, Korean and European auto manufacturers (outside of Lotus) pulled out of the show, but Honda is still looking to make a major international splash with the premiere of the two-seater CR-Z hybrid coming to Canada for 2010. Honda released photos last week of the Honda CR-Z Concept 2009, which appears to be a production ready version of the CR-Z hybrid sports car concept that Honda Canada confirmed last week will be available here next year. Although Honda is not revealing many technical details about the car until closer to the show's opening on Oct. 24, it's expected to offer a similar 1.5-litre Integrated Motor Assist (IMA) engine as the Honda Insight hybrid, but with less weight and more performance thanks to two seats, and an enthusiast-friendly six-speed manual transmission. That two-seat, low weight emphasis was prevalent on the first generation Honda Insight that debuted in 2000 in North America. But that same lighter-is-better formula was also what made the Honda CRX so much fun to drive, as a shortened, stiffened and lightened version of the Civic in the 1980s and 90s. And just like the old CRX hatchback, the new CR-Z concept offers a black but see-through rear hatch to aid in rear visibility. Honda has also confirmed that it will sell hybrid versions of the Fit and next generation Honda Civic in Europe and Japan as part of a new emphasis on small hybrid vehicles, but hasn't confirmed when those vehicles are coming to North America. With the current generation Honda Civic entering its fifth year this fall, it's a safe bet that a new gasoline version will appear soon, to be in dealerships by this time next year. Manufacturing teams from the Alliston, Ont., Honda plant that build all Civics sold in Canada - except the Hybrid - are in Japan now working on it, factory officials confirmed last week. Sales of the Civic Hybrid would have to be sold in much higher numbers to be able to justify bringing its production to North America as well, said Honda Canada Manufacturing's Jon Minto. Another interesting Tokyo debut for Honda with production possibility is the Skydeck concept minivan, although as a "design study," it's easily at least a few more auto shows away than the CR-Z. The Skydeck is a six-seater minivan that has scissor-like front doors, two sliding rear doors and no B pillar to hamper entry into the second row. It also features Honda's IMA hybrid system, a clear roof and green translucent wheels for that extra spacey look. On the other hand, the Honda Odyssey has been on the market a long time now... Read full article here. __________________ Honda CR-Z Forum

10-12-2009, 01:33 PM	#3 (permalink)
MikeCR-Z Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,497	We still really are waiting for official confirmation. Seems like every news article seems to state something different, which usually isn't surprising when nothing is official I still could see Honda throwing us a curve ball and giving the Honda CRZ a four seat option to those who are interested. Hopefully at Tokyo, Honda will let us know for sure! __________________ Honda CR-Z Forum

10-23-2009, 01:21 PM	#7 (permalink)
MikeCR-Z Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,497	Almost like Honda is trying to bite on the Pontiac Solstice / Saturn Sky crowd after they are no longer produced. __________________ Honda CR-Z Forum

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10-22-2009, 09:26 PM	#4 (permalink)
marinjim Newbie Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 8	"Fitted with a 6-speed manual transmission and sport-tuned suspension, the upcoming CR-Z certainly will be engaging for the driver, the first hybrid sports coupe on the market. Although the car on display at Tokyo has a tiny back seat, the production CR-Z (which makes its worldwide debut at the North American International Auto Show in Detroit in January) is a sporty 2-seater, one with the added practicality of a hatchback." 2011 Honda CR-Z- Yahoo! Autos Article Page

10-23-2009, 12:31 PM	#6 (permalink)
Hargert Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 37	It can be sporty for the rest of the world not just in the North American market. I am not sure why Honda America is going this route.