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Coilover/Spring Comparison and Pictures

This thread was created to track all the coilover options on the market for the CRZ. It is a work in progress and I hope someone finds it helpful. I wanted a quick way to compare specs, approximate prices and to collect reviews from owners. This thread was intended to be a good starting point for research not an Encyclopedia. If you guys think this is useful I'll continue to update this thread when new items are released.

If any of you own any of these coilovers, please post impressions and I will add them to the first post. Also if anyone notices a typo or other misinformation please let me know. All preliminary information gathered from pages of different vendors here or from manufacturer videos etc.

*pictures will be added to this post as i get them*

Criteria:
Coilover Name
Spring Rates
Adjustability
Damper Kind
Drop
Price Approximation
Rebuildable?
Reuse stock Mounts?
Other information? - reviews etc

* THIS IS A QUICK OVERVIEW. PRICING and OTHER SPECS MAY CHANGE *

Stock!
Front 2.2 kg / m Rear 3.4 kg/m
Adjustability: None
Damper Kind: Twin tube
Drop: None
Price Approximation: ?
Rebuildable - Usually no: replaced by factory parts
Reuse stock Mounts - NA
Other information? - reviews : ask consumer reports and motor trend, lol. jk


Mugen Sports Suspension

Adjustable: Yes - 5 way
Damper: Twin Tube?
Drop: Front 1in Rear 1in (average)
Price: 2000
Mounts: ?
Rebuildable: ?
Other Info:





Tein SS
Front: 3kg/m Rear: 4kg/m
Adjustable: Yes: 16 way
Damper: Twin Tube
Drop: 1.5 inches default
Price: 1200
Mounts: Re-Use stock top mounts
Rebuildable: Yes at TEIN USA
Other Info: Not EDFC compatible





Tein MonoFlex
Front: 5kg/m Rear: 5kg/m
Adjustable: Yes - 16 way
Damper: Mono Tube
Drop: 1.5 inches default
Price: 2100
Mounts: Top mounts included
Rebuildable: Yes at TEIN USA
Other Info: EDFC compatible. Evasive Motorsport used these coilovers on a CRZ track car that went around Button Willow.





HKS Hipermax III
Front: 6kg/m Rear: 5kg/m
Adjustable: Yes: 30 way
Damper: Mono Tube
Drop:
Price: 2000
Mounts: Top mounts included
Rebuildable: Yes, at HKS Japan
Other Info:





Cusco Zero-1
Front: 6kg/m Rear: 4kg/m
Adjustable: Rear can be custom ordered - default spec is not adjustable
Damper: Twin Tube
Drop: ?
Price: 1650
Mounts: Top mounts not included
Rebuildable: Yes at Cusco Japan
Other Info: Custom spring rates can't be ordered. Not E-Con compatible




Cusco Zero-2E
Front: 6kg/m Rear: 4kg/m
Adjustable: Yes - 5 way
Damper: Twin Tube?
Drop: ?
Price: 2000
Mounts: ?
Rebuildable: Yes at Cusco Japan
Other Info: Custom spring rates can be ordered up to 20 kg/m. E-Con compatible








Cusco Zero-3
Front: 10kg/m Rear: 9kg/m
Adjustable: Yes - 24 way
Damper: Mono Tube
Drop: ?
Price: 2700
Mounts: Included
Rebuildable: Yes at Cusco Japan
Other Info: Custom spring rates can be ordered up to 20 kg/m. E-Con compatible. Stiffest spring rates so far off the shelf.




Tanabe Pro S0C
Spring Rates?
Adjustable: ?
Damper: ?
Drop: ?
Price: ?
Mounts: ?
Rebuildable: Yes at Tanabe Japan
Other Info: Still in R&D







Eibach Pro Street-S
Spring Rates: TBD
Adjustability: n/a
Damper Kind: Mono Tube
Drop: TBD
Price Approximation: $1500
Rebuildable? Yes, at Eibach USA
Reuse stock Mounts? Yes
Other information? - Currently being tested on Eibach's CR-Z. Tested at Buttonwillow 3 times, California Speedway once and Adams Motorsport Park once.






K-Sport Kontrol
Spring Rates: ?
Adjustable: Yes: 36 way
Damper: Mono Tube
Drop: ?
Price: 1000
Mounts: Top mounts included
Rebuildable: *No - usually K-Sport sends new dampers instead of servicing old ones. May be different for this application
Other Info: These colovers are TUV approved for those that need approval (Norway and other countries)





K-Sport Rally
Spring Rates: ?
Adjustable: Yes: 36 way
Damper: Mono Tube
Drop: ?
Price: 1200
Mounts: Top mounts included
Rebuildable: *No - usually K-Sport sends new dampers instead of rebuilds. May be different here
Other Info: These colovers are TUV approved for those that need approval (Norway and other countries)


Bisimoto Coilovers
Front: 350 lbs/in Rear: 650 lbs/in (dont feel like converting to kg/m - lazy, lol)
Adjustable: ?
Damper: Twin Tube
Drop: Front 1 to 3 inches Rear: 1 to 3 inches
Price: 1100
Mounts: Top mounts not included
Rebuildable: Fronts yes, rears NO (replacements available for the rear)
Other Info:





Ground Control Sleeves
Spring Rates?
Adjustable: Depends on the damper you use with them
Damper: Depends on the damper you use with them
Drop: ?
Price: 400
Mounts: N/A
Rebuildable: N/A
Other Info: Coilover sleeves. Can be used with stock shocks but work better with aftermarket options such as Koni yellows. Koni's are not available on this car yet.





M&M Honda
Front:7 kg/m Rear: 5 kg/m
Adjustable: ?
Damper: ?
Drop: ?
Price: ?
Mounts: Not included by default - upgraded mounts available though
Rebuildable: ?
Other Info: M&M tuned Ohlins struts




Bilstein
Spring Rates?
Adjustable: ?
Damper: ?
Drop: ?
Price: ?
Mounts: ?
Rebuildable: ?
Other Info: Coming soon




KW Variant 1
Spring Rates?
Adjustable: ?
Damper: ?
Drop: ?
Price: ?
Mounts: ?
Rebuildable: ?
Other Info: KW has no plans as of now to make a V2 or V3 for this application. These colovers are TUV approved for those that need approval (Norway and other countries)


AJ Racing
Front 6 kg/m Rear 6 kg/m
Adjustable: Yes
Damper: Twin Tube?
Drop: Front: 35mm / Rear: 45mm
Price: ?
Mounts: ?
Rebuildable: ?
Other Info: Available now







Max Racing Street Damper Kit
Front: 6kg/m Rear: 5 kg/m
Adjustable: ?
Damper: ?
Drop: ?
Price: $1800 -$2000
Mounts: N/A
Rebuildable: ?
Other Info: MAX RACING - INFORMATION - CR-Z







AMR Engineering Coilovers (pics coming soon)

Adjustable: Yes - 8 way
Damper: Monotube standard/ Inverted Monotube Available
Spring Rate: Custom "Based on customers needs and goals for the car"
Drop: 1-3 Inches
Price: $1695.00
Mounts: Yes
Rebuildable: Rebuildable by anyone that currently services name brand dampers such as Ohlins, Penske, Bilstein..etc. AMR also has service centers on both East and West Coasts.
Other Info: Dampers come with a lifetime warranty. "We have never had a blown damper in the 6years we have been in this business. Our durability is proven, and we also use the best springs on the market made by Hyperco." Hyperco springs also have lifetime warranty from Hyperco. Dampers can be made to order


Toda Fightex Coilover

Adjustable: Yes (including camber adjustment)
Damper: Not listed but probably monotube
Spring Rate: Custom but default is 8 kg/m front and 5kg/m rear
Drop: 1-3 Inches
Price: $2700.00+ (they need to be imported)
Mounts: No
Rebuildable: Not listed





Blitz Damper ZZ-R

Adjustable: Yes (including camber adjustment)
Damper: Monotube
Spring Rate: Not listed
Drop: Front 60mm // Rear 65mm
Price: $2300.00+ (they need to be imported)
Mounts: No
Rebuildable: Yes


D2 Racing Rally

Adjustable: Yes 32 way
Damper: Inverted Monotube
Spring Rate: Not listed
Drop: 1.25 inches all around
Price: $1200.00+
Mounts: Yes
Rebuildable: Yes




D2 Racing RS

Adjustable: Yes 36 way
Damper: Monotube
Spring Rate: Not listed
Drop: Not listed
Price: $900.00+
Mounts: Yes
Rebuildable: Yes





Interesting things:

1 - Most coilovers here have stiffer front rates compared to the rear but a few are stiffer out back. Im not sure why that is.

2 - Even some of the pricey coilovers require you to re-use stock top mounts.

3- Most common spring rate is about 6kg/m in the front and 4-5 kg/m in the rear. This may be a good starting point for comparison between brands.

4-Price of OEM Top Mounts: see post below


If I forgot anything or you have information to add, post up!

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MORE COILOVERS!

Megan Racing Coilovers

Adjustable: Yes 32 way
Damper: ?
Spring Rate: ?
Drop: ?
Price: $1000.00+
Mounts: No
Rebuildable: ?






BC Racing BR-Type Coilovers
Front: 4 kg/m Rear: 5kg/m
Adjustability: Yes - 30 levels of damping force adjustment, adjust compression/rebound
Damper: MonoTube
Drop: Untested Yet
Price: MSRP $1250
Rebuildable: Yes
Other information?: BC Racing - North America ; Also available in "RAM-Type." These coilovers are basically the same thing except they're inverted-monotube, MSRP prices are also more expensive at $1450.




Buddy Club N+
Adjustable: Yes
Damper: Mono Tube
Spring Rate: Front: 6kg/mm / Rear: 3kg/mm
Drop: ?
Price: $1150.00+
Mounts: reuse stock
Rebuildable: Usually not.




Corner Konnection C1
Adjustable: Yes
Damper: Mono Tube
Spring Rate: Custom
Drop: ?
Price: $1800.00 (intro price available as of 5/4/2011)
Mounts: reuse stock
Rebuildable: ?
Other: Only available from Tony at Basis Sport Tuning as of now. Custom valved and custom spring rates on the coilovers. Picture is generic not the actual product for this application





PICS Courtesy of GoTuning a forum vendor. Full suspension install instructions in the DIY section

4-Price of OEM Top Mounts: (just in case you dont want to use a spring compressor to get top mounts off or want to leave your stock suspension completely assembled. There is no problem re-using stock parts at all so this is not a necessary cost)

FRONT:
Front shock bearing (collar) is *$16.43 and shock mount *$17.46 each (2 needed).
Total $67 Total Approx +shipping


OEM vs Cusco comparison


7. For the Cusco suspension and possibly other coilovers, remove the collar from the top of the stock shock and re-use it on the Cusco Coilovers


Order of assembly


Rubber mount sits on top of the collar





REAR

Spring mount are $7.67 each, rear shock absorber washer $3.20 each, and the shock absorber mounting $3.72 each
Total Approx $30 plus shipping


OEM vs. Cusco (spring and perch is shown upside down)


13. Trim the tabs off of the top OEM rubber mount to install them into the cusco adjustable spring perch.


16. Make sure the stock rubber bushings are not still stuck on the body and re-install the new shock. The body of the car should be sandwiched by the 2 rubber bushings.


Correct order of components with the body of the car in between the 2 rubber bushings.





Vendors: Is this all we need to not have to re-use stock suspension components? I would just like to verify

P.S. Thanks to College Hills Honda on the OEM pricing. Part prices are subject to change.

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awesome thread and thanks for doing the work!!!

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Any chance on adding a web link with each example?

Good info, thanks for taking the time. I had no idea there we some lower cost options out there.
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awesome thread and thanks for doing the work!!!


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Any chance on adding a web link with each example?

Good info, thanks for taking the time. I had no idea there we some lower cost options out there.
I didnt want to put links up because they would go directly to a vendor and i didnt want to promote any specific one. Does that make sense? I can still do it but i thought it would be best not to.

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Sick!!! "GOOD WORK Northbridge"

I think the tanabe suspention will end up being under a thousand
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I didnt want to put links up because they would go directly to a vendor and i didnt want to promote any specific one. Does that make sense? I can still do it but i thought it would be best not to.
Makes sense now, better to send the business to the site supporting vendors rather than just a website.
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Thanks a lot for the info.
Good to see all of them in one thread.
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M&M Honda
Spring Rates: 7k front/ 5 k rear
Adjustable: ?
Damper: ?
Drop: ?
Price: 4900$
Mounts: Front and Rear available but not included
Rebuildable: ?
Other Info: M&M tuned Ohlin Strutw w/ springs and spring mounts/spacers, front and rear mounts extra, as are the front stabilizer links

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^ thanks. OP updated. These aren't out yet are they?

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