Adjustable front A arms

[Shatner]

With pillow balls.

Moonface Front Rollcenter Adjuster Arm CR-Z

This Is an offering from a new vendor, KamiSpeed. I'm pretty set on springs but these require coilovers.

You guys running coilovers, what do you think of these? Will you get them? The only car I've had coilovers on was my STi and it already had bad ass A arms. So I never upgraded them.

Any other thoughts are welcome.

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[northbridge]

good question. for the price i cant justify them now. maybe way later if i need something to mod i'll get them. i dont imagine they will make that much difference esp. compared to a good quality coilover. Are you considering these Shatner?

[Shatner]

KamiSpeed said if enough people get together that he'll do a group buy.

[northbridge]

^ not much interest here yet anyway...

i want coilovers first but im open to this idea.

[zeropointzero]

i only want coilovers when some decent mfg's start producing them. i am not interested i the Tein, HKS, or Eibach that are currently available.

[KamiSpeed]

Originally Posted by zeropointzero

i only want coilovers when some decent mfg's start producing them. i am not interested i the Tein, HKS, or Eibach that are currently available.

Cusco is making some pretty good coilovers with external reservoirs:
-Competition Zero-3X (I can get you pricing if you are interested)


M&M also came out with Coilovers they tuned from Ohlin shocks
-I can get pricing if you are interested
M&M Honda and the CR-Z



Also for everyone else,

I updated the prices a bit for the moonface products on my thread
moonface threadl
I also added the front adjustable stabilizer links, once again all of the moonface products are special order but the more people I get the more discount I can give.

[zeropointzero]

M&M coilovers has my interest, PM me pricing. i would want the moonface lower control arms and their front sway bar links.

thanks.

[BlackNDecker]

It is well known that McPherson strut style suspensions don't respond well to lowering. This topic has been pretty thoroughly discussed over on clubrsx.com and clubep3.com. I'm a bit surprised that there isn't as much "technical" suspension discussion....but whatever.

For those that don't know, significantly lowering a car with McPherson struts actually raises the roll center of the car and drastically reduces handling. Exactly "how low is too low" is unknown (at least to me) on the CRZ and Fit (<-- identical chassis BTW)...I've yet to see anyone perform the calculations. A safe drop would be less than 1".

I only bring this up in this thread b/c roll center adjusters are only meant for cars lowered beyond 1" (or whatever drop results in flatening of the front lower control arms). Think of RCA (roll center adjusters) as a band-aid for the bump steer that results from lowering the car too much.

[KamiSpeed]

Originally Posted by BlackNDecker

It is well known that McPherson strut style suspensions don't respond well to lowering. This topic has been pretty thoroughly discussed over on clubrsx.com and clubep3.com. I'm a bit surprised that there isn't as much "technical" suspension discussion....but whatever.

For those that don't know, significantly lowering a car with McPherson struts actually raises the roll center of the car and drastically reduces handling. Exactly "how low is too low" is unknown (at least to me) on the CRZ and Fit (<-- identical chassis BTW)...I've yet to see anyone perform the calculations. A safe drop would be less than 1".

I only bring this up in this thread b/c roll center adjusters are only meant for cars lowered beyond 1" (or whatever drop results in flatening of the front lower control arms). Think of RCA (roll center adjusters) as a band-aid for the bump steer that results from lowering the car too much.

Yea,

If you look at our product page, the description specifically advises the roll center adjusts be for cars with a drop greater than 1"

[zeropointzero]

BND, you and i are on the same page. i am not one to "slam" a car. i always shoot for getting the CA's level and that's all. our US spec cars can afford a moderate drop, 3/4" to 1" should get the CA's level. i have the swift springs on order and plan to measure the drop. it's advertised as 1" - 1.2" drop.

i have done the roll center adjusters on other cars, not really necessary unless you "slam" the car.