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Klasse Act · 12-31-2011, 10:18 AM

Green Earth Technologies

Being a very long time user of Mobil 1 (back to mid 90's) I've had no reason to make a switch to anything else, but I saw an entire segment on G-oil while watching SPEED a while ago and it got me thinking. I like the fact that its all made here and everything is recylcled, from the packaging to the oil itself. Now I'm no "greenie", trust me but it just seems to make good sense IMO. They also ran it in a LeMans race car too, they have a race version of the oil as well. The only thing that's odd is the fact that it only comes in 5w30, surely it wouldn't hurt the engine in our car (Fit engine last year called for this weight and then switched over)

So, has anyone made the switch to this and/or have thoughts about this?

silverbullet · 12-31-2011, 01:03 PM

I have a few opinions on this. Its only GREEN because most of the base stocks come from alcohols which is a renewable and recyclable resource. It can be refined to what ever they want for the most part with little oil stocks being used. Most regular oil is made form natural gas the same way they just built it to what they want. Crude oil is cracked down and rebuilt and other streams added to make the product. There is more to this but this is the way I understand it.

5w30 is not that much different and might be better for the car in the long run. Honda in Japan uses 10w30 non Vtec and 15w40 vtec accord to a Honda website I read.

So IMO all oils and fuels are synthetic in theory.

Scotty001 · 12-31-2011, 04:43 PM

I think one of the reasons 0w20 is prescribed is the IMA and autostop. Don't know that I would run a heavier/thicker oil if your driving conditions use autostop frequently.

Klasse Act · 12-31-2011, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Scotty001

I think one of the reasons 0w20 is prescribed is the IMA and autostop. Don't know that I would run a heavier/thicker oil if your driving conditions use autostop frequently.

I'm sure that has something to do with it, well, along with better mileage too. My 10' Fit called for 5w20 but then they (Honda) switched to 0w20. As far as the auto-stop feature goes, well, I think that by the time the engine stops for the first time after starting up, its pretty warmed up already, seems like something the ECU would figure out.

I'm going to have the dealership do my first oil change because I've got a coupon for it but after that, well I'll probably switch over to Mobil 1. I wish Mobil 1 Extended Life was available in 0 weight because what I was going to do was run it (Extended Life) for the advertised 15k but I was going to change the filter at 7500k and then again at the next oil change. Using the right oil filter can allow you to do this, well along with motor oil that can hold up to that, I trust Mobil 1 Extended Life. I may just get the 5w30 Mobil 1 EL and do the previously mentioned program. I drive my car pretty easy, except when I go down to the Dragon, so I feel I could do this. I'm not trying to be cheap here, just smart, that's all.

silverbullet · 12-31-2011, 05:38 PM

Here are the some reasons for 0w20..

http://www.infineum.com/sitecollecti...a%20042109.pdf

http://www.sgfma.org/files/Lubricant...quirements.pdf

Reasons against. http://www.rheosense.com/microVISC%2...gine%20Oil.pdf

As the oil wears so does the protection.

InsightRacer · 12-31-2011, 05:43 PM

The 0w20 is very low viscosity which reduces drag in the motor improving efficiency and gas milage. So one of the reasons is gas milage. Some people with 1st gen Insights claimed gas milage was worse with 5w20 which is a little more available.

The other thing is manufacturing. Honda manufacturing is able to keep tolerances so tight that thick oil won't get in the tiny spaces between the parts. So they need lighter oil to penetrate.

Scotty001 · 12-31-2011, 05:55 PM

^ Yea, 5W20 effected my gas mileage on my 07 Civic Hybrid. It was listed as an alternative oil in the Civic's owners manual. I don't see anything but 0w20 in the CR-Z's owners manual. Not sure I would use anything else - especially in cold weather..

silverbullet · 12-31-2011, 05:58 PM

Here is a report with oil and with some info and the CRZ. http://world.honda.com/environment/r...E_full_all.pdf

There is not that much difference between 0 weight and 5w20 to get that much better mpg. http://www.infineum.com/Documents/Cr...cants-2010.pdf

Klasse Act · 12-31-2011, 06:19 PM

I really like the idea of 0w since it flows faster when its cold, then, when it warms up, the 20/30 weight of the oil takes over. This is why I wanna stick with 0w20 in a way but then again, a full synthetic 5w30 should still flow quickly and hold up as well, especially if I end up going with the 15k interval like I mentioned before.

silverbullet · 12-31-2011, 07:40 PM

I think fuel has more to do with mpg. 0W or 5W is only different at -35 for 0 weight and -30 for 5W. Parts should be cover with Moly which is on the pistons and in the energy oils. I might be wrong about the differences but I think more about supply and that 0w20 might be easier to make due to retooling and cost of the ingredients.

12-31-2011, 10:18 AM	#1 (permalink)
Klasse Act Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Woodridge IL, USA Posts: 1,106	Thoughts on G-oil Green Earth Technologies Being a very long time user of Mobil 1 (back to mid 90's) I've had no reason to make a switch to anything else, but I saw an entire segment on G-oil while watching SPEED a while ago and it got me thinking. I like the fact that its all made here and everything is recylcled, from the packaging to the oil itself. Now I'm no "greenie", trust me but it just seems to make good sense IMO. They also ran it in a LeMans race car too, they have a race version of the oil as well. The only thing that's odd is the fact that it only comes in 5w30, surely it wouldn't hurt the engine in our car (Fit engine last year called for this weight and then switched over) So, has anyone made the switch to this and/or have thoughts about this? __________________ 2011 SSM CR-Z EX/6MT Surface protection count...(48) v..JOIN US..v https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K16Y...e_gdata_player

12-31-2011, 06:19 PM	#9 (permalink)
Klasse Act Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Woodridge IL, USA Posts: 1,106	I really like the idea of 0w since it flows faster when its cold, then, when it warms up, the 20/30 weight of the oil takes over. This is why I wanna stick with 0w20 in a way but then again, a full synthetic 5w30 should still flow quickly and hold up as well, especially if I end up going with the 15k interval like I mentioned before. __________________ 2011 SSM CR-Z EX/6MT Surface protection count...(48) v..JOIN US..v https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K16Y...e_gdata_player

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12-31-2011, 01:03 PM	#2 (permalink)
silverbullet Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Constantly moving in Illinois Posts: 93	I have a few opinions on this. Its only GREEN because most of the base stocks come from alcohols which is a renewable and recyclable resource. It can be refined to what ever they want for the most part with little oil stocks being used. Most regular oil is made form natural gas the same way they just built it to what they want. Crude oil is cracked down and rebuilt and other streams added to make the product. There is more to this but this is the way I understand it. 5w30 is not that much different and might be better for the car in the long run. Honda in Japan uses 10w30 non Vtec and 15w40 vtec accord to a Honda website I read. So IMO all oils and fuels are synthetic in theory.

12-31-2011, 05:38 PM	#5 (permalink)
silverbullet Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Constantly moving in Illinois Posts: 93	Here are the some reasons for 0w20.. http://www.infineum.com/sitecollecti...a%20042109.pdf http://www.sgfma.org/files/Lubricant...quirements.pdf Reasons against. http://www.rheosense.com/microVISC%2...gine%20Oil.pdf As the oil wears so does the protection.

12-31-2011, 05:58 PM	#8 (permalink)
silverbullet Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Constantly moving in Illinois Posts: 93	Here is a report with oil and with some info and the CRZ. http://world.honda.com/environment/r...E_full_all.pdf There is not that much difference between 0 weight and 5w20 to get that much better mpg. http://www.infineum.com/Documents/Cr...cants-2010.pdf

12-31-2011, 07:40 PM	#10 (permalink)
silverbullet Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Constantly moving in Illinois Posts: 93	I think fuel has more to do with mpg. 0W or 5W is only different at -35 for 0 weight and -30 for 5W. Parts should be cover with Moly which is on the pistons and in the energy oils. I might be wrong about the differences but I think more about supply and that 0w20 might be easier to make due to retooling and cost of the ingredients.