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forumonlooker · 08-25-2012, 11:59 AM

There aren't as many downsides to diesels anymore with ultra low sulfur diesel and strict emissions (thus improved technology) nowadays, aside from limited fuel availability in certain areas.

lexicon · 08-25-2012, 12:58 PM

Here in the UK about half of new cars are diesel and while they are much cleaner than they used to be, the technology isn't without it's problems. Particulate filters, dual-mass flywheels, turbos and injection pumps all have moderately high failure rates.
My last car was diesel and the common rail pump failed twice.
One of the reasons I came back to petrol was for reliability (OK, I added complexity by getting a hybrid, but the Honda system seems pretty solid).

ArtJDM · 08-25-2012, 01:12 PM

I heard the Mercedes clean diesels require you to get a concentrated bottle of urine replenished in your car every so often.

lexicon · 08-25-2012, 02:01 PM

Yep, Mercedes BlueTec is urea (not urine) injection to reduce NOx emissions. The vehicle carries a tank of it that needs to be refilled periodically.

kalkman007 · 08-25-2012, 05:40 PM

A friend of mine does 47 mpg in a 2.0 tdi golf with 140 bhp. Its a really good car to drive but it is $ 15000 more then a crz here...and every one drives a golf here...

OneFitZ · 08-25-2012, 07:04 PM

A Golf TDI is $24k. The Jetta TDI is $23k. they aren't much more than a CRZ and they have a few nicer options than what we have. I love my Z but if I wanted MPG and comfort, I'd take the Jetta hands down.

I really don't think we need to get into a discussion on the advantages and disadvantages of diesel engines on this forum though.

Varmint · 08-25-2012, 10:48 PM

My wife's car is a Jetta Sportwagen tdi. We average about 40-44 mpg with it. Not a clean at the tail pipe, but diesels are very efficient.

A while back, Honda was looking into gas engines that detonated with compression. The project never made it to fruition, though.

CR-Z Canadian · 08-26-2012, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lexicon

Yep, Mercedes BlueTec is urea (not urine) injection to reduce NOx emissions. The vehicle carries a tank of it that needs to be refilled periodically.

Autocorrect strikes again? LOL.

ocorreia · 08-26-2012, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CR-Z Canadian

Autocorrect strikes again? LOL.

Sorry, this time was needed. Found hilarious to read that a car needs urine to work properly! LOL

Ludercrz · 08-27-2012, 10:23 AM

ya Turbo Diesel cars have good mileage but alot of the good cars that are Turbo Diesel are in Europe and don't make it to North America... apparently we prefer regular fuel injection here o_0

08-25-2012, 12:58 PM	#12 (permalink)
lexicon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 262	Here in the UK about half of new cars are diesel and while they are much cleaner than they used to be, the technology isn't without it's problems. Particulate filters, dual-mass flywheels, turbos and injection pumps all have moderately high failure rates. My last car was diesel and the common rail pump failed twice. One of the reasons I came back to petrol was for reliability (OK, I added complexity by getting a hybrid, but the Honda system seems pretty solid). __________________ 2010 CR-Z GT 6MT Crystal Black Pearl

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ArtJDM stop taking me seriously Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Tampa Bay Area, FL Posts: 4,239	I heard the Mercedes clean diesels require you to get a concentrated bottle of urine replenished in your car every so often. __________________ ArtJDM's List of Fake Parts Buy CR-Z Forum Stuff from the new forum store!!! Works_Of_ArtPhotography

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lexicon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Lancashire, UK Posts: 262	Yep, Mercedes BlueTec is urea (not urine) injection to reduce NOx emissions. The vehicle carries a tank of it that needs to be refilled periodically. __________________ 2010 CR-Z GT 6MT Crystal Black Pearl

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08-25-2012, 07:04 PM	#16 (permalink)
OneFitZ BANNED Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 3,163	A Golf TDI is $24k. The Jetta TDI is $23k. they aren't much more than a CRZ and they have a few nicer options than what we have. I love my Z but if I wanted MPG and comfort, I'd take the Jetta hands down. I really don't think we need to get into a discussion on the advantages and disadvantages of diesel engines on this forum though.