Differences in USDM, EDM, JDM CR-Z - Honda CRZ Forum: Honda CR-Z Hybrid Car Forums

bizzybear · 02-09-2010, 06:20 PM

what are some of the differences that you've seen in the CR-Z among the 3 main markets?? for example:

DRL LEDs
USDM - No
EDM - Yes
JDM - Yes

Back Seats
USDM - No
EDM - Yes
JDM - Yes

Panoramic Glass Roof
USDM - No
EDM - Yes
JDM - Yes

1.5L IMA Drivetrain
USDM - Yes LEA1-MF6
EDM - Yes LEA1-MF6
JDM - Yes LEA-MF6 (note: no 1 at the end

)

6MT (manual transmission)
USDM - Yes
EDM - Yes
JDM - Yes

CVT (continuously variable transmission)
USDM - Yes 3.173~0.529, FD 4.20, R 5.666~2.167
EDM - No
JDM - Yes 2.526~0.421, FD 5.274, R 4.510~ 1.725

Leather
USDM - No
EDM - Yes
JDM - Yes

Red Hazard Button
USDM - No
EDM - Yes
JDM - Yes

Push Start Button
USDM - No
EDM - Yes
JDM - unconfirmed

Headlight Sprayer/Washer
USDM - No
EDM - Yes
JDM - unconfirmed

Integrated Turn Indicators
USDM - Yes
EDM - Yes
JDM - Yes

Rear (Hatch) Wiper
USDM - Yes
EDM - No
JDM - Yes

Different Choice in Navigation
USDM - Yes (1 Option)
EDM - Yes (3 Options)
JDM - Yes (? Options)

Optional Backup Camera
USDM - No
EDM - Yes
JDM - Yes

Gas Door Lock
USDM - No
EDM - Yes
JDM - unconfirmed

Power Folding Mirrors
USDM - No
EDM - Yes
JDM - unconfirmed

If you know more, post them here and i will update this post with it...

rd118403 · 02-09-2010, 09:34 PM

The headlight sprayer/washer things are on the EDM, but not the USDM. Not sure about JDM.

With EDM getting Leather, do you think Heated seats are another feature they will get? Most if not all current Honda's with Leather automatically have heated seats.

The lack of Glass Roof and Back Seats should help the weight of the USDM model. Backseat is pointless in this little car anyway

Hargert · 02-10-2010, 10:28 AM

I dont know why Honda is cutting the US model so much, some things to cut costs I get but at least make them options on the higher end versions. As a long time fan of the CRZ I am just about done and going to have to find something else to buy now. There is no reason to not offer push button start or other basic luxury items on this car if you have them in the rest of the world.

MikeCR-Z · 02-10-2010, 10:55 AM

I do find it strange they are cutting out things such as leather and the push button start. Be interesting to hear Honda's reasoning.

Might be time to start emailing them and let them know what the WE want, and not what they think we want!

GoHuskies · 02-10-2010, 11:39 AM

US gets the shaft with new cars.

I assume these cars will all still be built in Japan so I don't see why at least leather on the EX trim can't come stateside.

bizzybear · 02-10-2010, 01:49 PM

i added a push start to my Si... wasn't hard... $10-$15 in materials including wires, relay (most of the cost), universal connectors... oh and the button (S2k) retails for like $40 or so... the hardest part was cutting into my dash... i only had to do that b/c it's not even close to an option for the coupes to add a button... the sedans have a nice place to put the button tho... on this it shouldn't be hard either... simply buy the parts ie: panel, button, wires, etc... and should be an easy install...

i'm not a huge fan of leather, but would be nice to have the option b/c it would keep the price of the non-leather down

the hardest upgrade to my CR-Z is going to be the addition of the sunroof... and that's only b/c i'm going to have to cut/weld/paint... but relatively easy i suppose...

rd118403 · 02-10-2010, 06:51 PM

Im suprised to hear so many people prefer a push button starter.. When Honda put it on the S2000 it was a novelty item, meant to represent the starter on a racecar (and as far as I know Honda was the first mainstream manufacturer to feature it on a production car); you still have to place the key into the ignition and turn it, so the push-button is actually an additional step... It's fine as a novelty feature on a "limited production sportscar," but the fact that BMW, Nissan, etc, etc are making it standard these days on things like Sedans makes no sense. That being said, I guess it kinda makes sense on the CR-Z because it is a "limited production 'sporty' car." Close enough.

bizzybear · 02-10-2010, 07:01 PM

lol... i see your point... if it wasn't offered at all, i wouldn't want it... but since it is an option somewhere else... i want it... even with the added step, it's still simple... i mean i got so used to it in my Si that it was weird when i actually tried to start the car normally... i could also disconnect the wire on the ignition to where it would ONLY start with the button but i wanted to have a backup in case the button stopped working lol...

oldchap14 · 02-10-2010, 09:10 PM

Back in the good old days, (heh, heh), you turned the key (after you pulled the choke) and stepped on the starter. When starters were incorporated into the ignition system, it was viewed as a leap into the future. Yes, the S2000 emulated the push-start of a race car. But race cars don't have key ignitions. So let's move on into the 21st century with "finger print start", where you just touch a pad with your fingertip to start, no key required. Comng soon to your nearest dealer! :-)

SpoonCrz · 02-11-2010, 12:53 PM

On a positive note, all them parts we don't get is likely a direct bolt on.
As long as it's available...it can be done.

02-09-2010, 06:20 PM	#1 (permalink)
bizzybear Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Sebastian, FL Posts: 5,368	Differences in USDM, EDM, JDM CR-Z what are some of the differences that you've seen in the CR-Z among the 3 main markets?? for example: DRL LEDs USDM - No EDM - Yes JDM - Yes Back Seats USDM - No EDM - Yes JDM - Yes Panoramic Glass Roof USDM - No EDM - Yes JDM - Yes 1.5L IMA Drivetrain USDM - Yes LEA1-MF6 EDM - Yes LEA1-MF6 JDM - Yes LEA-MF6 (note: no 1 at the end ) 6MT (manual transmission) USDM - Yes EDM - Yes JDM - Yes CVT (continuously variable transmission) USDM - Yes 3.173~0.529, FD 4.20, R 5.666~2.167 EDM - No JDM - Yes 2.526~0.421, FD 5.274, R 4.510~ 1.725 Leather USDM - No EDM - Yes JDM - Yes Red Hazard Button USDM - No EDM - Yes JDM - Yes Push Start Button USDM - No EDM - Yes JDM - unconfirmed Headlight Sprayer/Washer USDM - No EDM - Yes JDM - unconfirmed Integrated Turn Indicators USDM - Yes EDM - Yes JDM - Yes Rear (Hatch) Wiper USDM - Yes EDM - No JDM - Yes Different Choice in Navigation USDM - Yes (1 Option) EDM - Yes (3 Options) JDM - Yes (? Options) Optional Backup Camera USDM - No EDM - Yes JDM - Yes Gas Door Lock USDM - No EDM - Yes JDM - unconfirmed Power Folding Mirrors USDM - No EDM - Yes JDM - unconfirmed *If you know more, post them here and i will update this post with it...* __________________ ♫EDM♫ Fans - If you're a fan or just wanna listen INSANITY Workout!! Last edited by bizzybear; 11-17-2010 at 01:25 AM.

02-09-2010, 09:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
rd118403 Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 120	The headlight sprayer/washer things are on the EDM, but not the USDM. Not sure about JDM. With EDM getting Leather, do you think Heated seats are another feature they will get? Most if not all current Honda's with Leather automatically have heated seats. The lack of Glass Roof and Back Seats should help the weight of the USDM model. Backseat is pointless in this little car anyway __________________ '09 Civic LX Sedan, '05 S2000 '91 CRX Si, '00 VFR800 Interceptor

02-10-2010, 06:51 PM	#7 (permalink)
rd118403 Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 120	Im suprised to hear so many people prefer a push button starter.. When Honda put it on the S2000 it was a novelty item, meant to represent the starter on a racecar (and as far as I know Honda was the first mainstream manufacturer to feature it on a production car); you still have to place the key into the ignition and turn it, so the push-button is actually an additional step... It's fine as a novelty feature on a "limited production sportscar," but the fact that BMW, Nissan, etc, etc are making it standard these days on things like Sedans makes no sense. That being said, I guess it kinda makes sense on the CR-Z because it is a "limited production 'sporty' car." Close enough. __________________ '09 Civic LX Sedan, '05 S2000 '91 CRX Si, '00 VFR800 Interceptor

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02-10-2010, 10:28 AM	#3 (permalink)
Hargert Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 37	I dont know why Honda is cutting the US model so much, some things to cut costs I get but at least make them options on the higher end versions. As a long time fan of the CRZ I am just about done and going to have to find something else to buy now. There is no reason to not offer push button start or other basic luxury items on this car if you have them in the rest of the world.

02-10-2010, 10:55 AM	#4 (permalink)
MikeCR-Z Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,429	I do find it strange they are cutting out things such as leather and the push button start. Be interesting to hear Honda's reasoning. Might be time to start emailing them and let them know what the WE want, and not what they think we want!

02-10-2010, 01:49 PM	#6 (permalink)
bizzybear Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Sebastian, FL Posts: 5,368	i added a push start to my Si... wasn't hard... $10-$15 in materials including wires, relay (most of the cost), universal connectors... oh and the button (S2k) retails for like $40 or so... the hardest part was cutting into my dash... i only had to do that b/c it's not even close to an option for the coupes to add a button... the sedans have a nice place to put the button tho... on this it shouldn't be hard either... simply buy the parts ie: panel, button, wires, etc... and should be an easy install... i'm not a huge fan of leather, but would be nice to have the option b/c it would keep the price of the non-leather down the hardest upgrade to my CR-Z is going to be the addition of the sunroof... and that's only b/c i'm going to have to cut/weld/paint... but relatively easy i suppose...

02-10-2010, 07:01 PM	#8 (permalink)
bizzybear Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Sebastian, FL Posts: 5,368	lol... i see your point... if it wasn't offered at all, i wouldn't want it... but since it is an option somewhere else... i want it... even with the added step, it's still simple... i mean i got so used to it in my Si that it was weird when i actually tried to start the car normally... i could also disconnect the wire on the ignition to where it would ONLY start with the button but i wanted to have a backup in case the button stopped working lol...

02-10-2010, 09:10 PM	#9 (permalink)
oldchap14 Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Bishop, CA Posts: 133	Back in the good old days, (heh, heh), you turned the key (after you pulled the choke) and stepped on the starter. When starters were incorporated into the ignition system, it was viewed as a leap into the future. Yes, the S2000 emulated the push-start of a race car. But race cars don't have key ignitions. So let's move on into the 21st century with "finger print start", where you just touch a pad with your fingertip to start, no key required. Comng soon to your nearest dealer! :-)

02-11-2010, 12:53 PM	#10 (permalink)
SpoonCrz Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: N. New Jersey Posts: 349	On a positive note, all them parts we don't get is likely a direct bolt on. As long as it's available...it can be done.