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Old 09-05-2012, 07:21 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I wanted to see what the consensus was on sway bars. I've been looking at this one. Anyone have one, or this particular one? Any thoughts? Thanks!
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I have the Cusco and love it. But YMMV!

My car was pretty well neural with the HKS HiperMax IIIs and I didn't want to mess that up. Also, the ride was pretty stiff. I like it, but I was concerned about making it too hard for daily driving.

So I went with Cusco front and rear sway bars. They are only a little stiffer than stock but they make the car fell much more confident and keep the camber straight.

Maybe I could have gone with something stiffer like the Spoon FSB (25mm vs Cusco 20mm vs stock 18mm) and the Basis RSB (21mm? vs the Cusco 16mm) but the Cuscos are on there, they feel good and don't squeek!

Then you could just do what ITEM9 did which is Spoon FSB/Basis(?) RSB and lowering springs at a near stock rates. Check out his build thread!
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I have the Cusco and love it. But YMMV!

My car was pretty well neural with the HKS HiperMax IIIs and I didn't want to mess that up. Also, the ride was pretty stiff. I like it, but I was concerned about making it too hard for daily driving.

So I went with Cusco front and rear sway bars. They are only a little stiffer than stock but they make the car fell much more confident and keep the camber straight.

Maybe I could have gone with something stiffer like the Spoon FSB (25mm vs Cusco 20mm vs stock 18mm) and the Basis RSB (21mm? vs the Cusco 16mm) but the Cuscos are on there, they feel good and don't squeek!

Then you could just do what ITEM9 did which is Spoon FSB/Basis(?) RSB and lowering springs at a near stock rates. Check out his build thread!
Unrelated question, but do you race with an insight? If so, any videos of it? I'm really curious...
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you could just do what ITEM9 did which is Spoon FSB/Basis(?) RSB and lowering springs at a near stock rates. Check out his build thread!
Item9 has the Spoon FSB with a Progress RSB.
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Old 09-06-2012, 04:39 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I'm running stock FSB and Cusco RSB. Really happy with that setup, but then you want the car a bit softer in front for autoX.
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i was thinking of getting the basis rear sway as well. it really makes that much of a difference? even with our solid rears? my coils are 5f/4r so i can adjust the dampening to get it harder in the rear for auto-x but how much stiffer does it make it with just the rear bar? i enjoy my daily ride comfort right now and dont want to make it any more harsh (had it and hated it, first time too cause i usually ride stiff as **** rates).
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i was thinking of getting the basis rear sway as well. it really makes that much of a difference? even with our solid rears? my coils are 5f/4r so i can adjust the dampening to get it harder in the rear for auto-x but how much stiffer does it make it with just the rear bar? i enjoy my daily ride comfort right now and dont want to make it any more harsh (had it and hated it, first time too cause i usually ride stiff as **** rates).
My HKS are 6 front and 5 rear. I have them set to max soft and its a comfortable ride. I never noticed the bar making the ride more bumpy when driving normal. I could really only tell it was there when I cornered or went over speed bumps at an angle. But I've never driven on my coils without the RSB installed so I don't know if it will be as big a handling upgrade as it was for me when I put it on with oem suspension. At the current clearance price I would say it's worth it even if you are one of the unlucky ones and have to put in a little extra work to get it to fit right.

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Old 09-06-2012, 08:19 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Unrelated question, but do you race with an insight? If so, any videos of it? I'm really curious...
I had an Insight Import Pro Stock drag car. Gen 1 Insight chassis from the firewall back with the torsion beam rear end (and literally nothing else from the stock car), chromoly tube front end thru to the whellie bars, carbon fiber nose, 2.2l B18 motor on methanol. Ran the quarter in 10.5@125. Too cool but too much maintenance and expense.



And I wasn't the only one. Norris Prayoonto and Bisi (yes, the 533HP turbo CR-Z guy) both have them. Check them out on the web.
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I have the Cusco and love it.
Mind if I ask how much installation was? Or did you do it yourself?
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Mind if I ask how much installation was? Or did you do it yourself?
I debated this a lot. If you look through the threads you have to drop the subframe which sounds difficult. Check out ITEM9s Spoon FSB and Spoon Rigid Collar install for some details and pictures.

But I ultimately decided I could do it myself. I have done all of the other suspension work myself I felt I could tackle this as well. It took all weekend (because it was 95+ outside and I do this in my driveway)! Dropping the subframe is actually easy. It's the steering rack that is a problem. The steering rack bolts are a PITA to get to. I really recommend dropping the subframe a little (but not completely because I think you will disconnect the steering) before undoing the rack to make room to undo the steering rack bolts. That is how I reinstalled it.

They say this is about a 3-4 hour job. At $75-$100/hr that would be $300-$400 (to install a <$200 sway bar). I'm glad I did it myself but it is a lot of work.
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