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Old 10-24-2012, 12:08 PM   #161 (permalink)
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Trust me I've been in this thread since it opened. Exhaust and intake mods gain close to 30% over stock power so I don't consider them minor mods. I see the jrsc tune as a base tune for reliability.

Every car will run different even if you add the same mods. I want to send the car to Evans tuning once everything is on but I don't want to spend an extra 600$ if I will only get a few hp extra. If the tune was unlocked, Jeff could tweak it slightly for what my car needs and it would run perfect
Exhaust and intake will not gain 30% over stock. One of the misconception for upgrading parts and how powerful marketing can be to the general public. JR knows that which is why they developed the supercharger for this car. They had the red supercharged Crz dynoed with no exhaust just the primary cat and the numbers it produce was the same. I had a takeda intake and second cat delete on mine, when dynoed I gained 2hp that's it.

Also, the same parts in the same engine should produce the same output. Temperature would be the only variable that would affect it.

If you are considering in getting the kit and you have the means to get it without getting in major debt. I say just buy it with the tune, drive it and have fun =) don't worry about what you plan to do because when you drive it I would be willing to bet you will be satisfied. That is until an upgrade is available =)
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Old 10-24-2012, 12:18 PM   #162 (permalink)
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I gained 15whp from intake exhaust and downpipe dynoed before and after so.....
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Old 10-24-2012, 12:22 PM   #163 (permalink)
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I have seen dyno sheets making 130hp and factory is 100hp = 30% increase. Not a single car has the first cat delete(header) with a supercharger.

I just want to make sure I'm getting the most out of the car bc I will be tracking it next year.
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Old 10-24-2012, 12:27 PM   #164 (permalink)
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Mine was 132 who before intake manifold and throttle body
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Old 10-24-2012, 12:41 PM   #165 (permalink)
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I have seen dyno sheets making 130hp and factory is 100hp = 30% increase. Not a single car has the first cat delete(header) with a supercharger.

I just want to make sure I'm getting the most out of the car bc I will be tracking it next year.
I'm fairly certain stock HP is more than 100.
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Old 10-24-2012, 01:30 PM   #166 (permalink)
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I'm fairly certain stock HP is more than 100.
Varies dyno to dyno
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Old 10-24-2012, 02:15 PM   #167 (permalink)
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Just nut up and buy the Jackson tuner kit! I wished I did. The Jackson tune is MAF based and should work better than a MAP based tune with any combination of bolt-ons that you can think of. You'll probably be fine until you go with more aggressive cams and have work done on the cylinder head. Anything short of that isn't really going to matter much as far as tuning goes. Even though the Jackson tune is locked, you are not locked into only that tune and you can easily have it tuned again (from scratch though) once you get to the next level of your build.

The tuner kit is also cost effective; you get a $700 flashpro, $200 worth of injectors and a completely developed tune all for another $1000 over the TY kit. I spent more doing everything separate...
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Thank you item9 that was the answer I was looking for.
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Old 10-24-2012, 08:47 PM   #169 (permalink)
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It is difficult to know 2013 model compatibility without looking under the hood. Once 2013 CR-Zs are available and we can take a look at them, I am sure we will be able to confirm hardware fitment quickly. The FlashPro/ECU compatibility depends on how different the ECU is, and that is all Hondata.

What modifications are you looking to do?

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Cat-back, Header/DP with High-flow cat if they come out with them, FIT intake, probibily a port/polish/match of intake and exhaust side of the head.
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Old 10-26-2012, 01:09 PM   #170 (permalink)
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I have seen dyno sheets making 130hp and factory is 100hp = 30% increase. Not a single car has the first cat delete(header) with a supercharger.

I just want to make sure I'm getting the most out of the car bc I will be tracking it next year.
We have tested a multitude of stock and modified NA CR-Zs on the dyno, with cat-backs and all the available intakes. The maximum power gain with the best of the parts was 5%.

Our experience with supercharger systems is this: As long as the aftermarket exhaust system is not more restrictive than stock the tune will work fine without modification.

And yes, you can buy exhaust systems that deliver more noise and less power than stock. We have seen it many times.

By way of edification:
- There is easily a 25% variation in taking the same car from one type of dyno to another.
- You are assuming that the rated Honda power figures are correct. Our dyno testing shows that a new stock CR-Z makes only 2 HP less than our stock 100,000 mile R18 Civic which is rated by Honda at 138 HP.

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